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From: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@whamcloud.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Feature request: e2fsck -z
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 09:22:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E423FD0.40108@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4420E0D8-5E16-4FD0-A7A9-B462F02D742D@dilger.ca>

On 08/10/2011 09:16 AM, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On 2011-08-10, at 12:34 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> On 08/09/2011 06:52 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This is something I've wanted to see for a very long time, and it
>>> finally occurred to me that perhaps I should say something about it!
>>>
>>> It would be a very nice thing to have a flag to e2fsck, presumably -z,
>>> to zero out any unused data blocks, inodes and so on.  The goal is to
>>> minimize the amount of space required after compressing a virtual disk
>>> image or similar, and to make sure any non-data isn't lying around.
>> Do you need it to be in the fsck tool?
>>
>> If you have a sparsely allocated block map under your file system, doing a zero of all blocks could add hours for a big, slow S-ATA drives (2-3 hours for a 1TB drive).
> I think Ted has a tool that does this already.  It should be relatively simple oo do, like "dd if=/dev/zero of=/mountpoint/temp_zero_file&&  rm /mountpoint/temp_zero_file.

This will work but will be a potential multi-hour long process (and cause out of 
space errors at some point for other applications for a very brief window :))

>
>> An alternative for SSD's and devices that do TRIM/UNMAP would be to use one of the batched discard tools (that would make discarded data read back as zeroed).
> In fact, I thought Lukas has already made a tool for sending BLKDISCARD for all unused parts of the filesystem?
>
> Cheers, Andreas

Right, I think he has. That tool (not part of fsck) would do the job much 
quicker for enabled devices,

Ric


  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-10  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-09 17:52 Feature request: e2fsck -z H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-10  6:34 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-08-10  8:16   ` Andreas Dilger
2011-08-10  8:22     ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2011-08-10  9:35       ` Lukas Czerner
2011-08-10 10:55         ` Florian Weimer
2011-08-10 11:01           ` Lukas Czerner
2011-08-10 11:04             ` Florian Weimer
2011-08-10 11:06               ` Ric Wheeler
2011-08-10 11:09               ` Lukas Czerner
2011-08-10 13:25   ` Ted Ts'o
2011-08-10 14:34     ` Lukas Czerner
2011-08-10  7:54 ` Ron Yorston

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