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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:30:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <508C283C.2090807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873910xevu.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>

On 10/27/12 7:45 AM, Nix wrote:
> [nfs people purged from Cc]
> 
> On 27 Oct 2012, Theodore Ts'o verbalised:
> 
>> Huh?  It's not turned on by default.  If you mount with no mount
>> options, journal checksums are *not* turned on.
> 
> ?! it's turned on for me, and though I use weird mount options I don't
> use that one:

journal_async_commit implies journal_checksum:

        {Opt_journal_async_commit, (EXT4_MOUNT_JOURNAL_ASYNC_COMMIT |
                                    EXT4_MOUNT_JOURNAL_CHECKSUM), MOPT_SET},

journal_checksum seems to have broken, at least for me, between 3.3 & 3.4, I think I've narrowed down the commit but not sure yet what the flaw is, will investigate & report back later.  Busy Saturday.

So anyway, turning on journal_async_commit (notionally unsafe) enables journal_checksum (apparently broken).

-Eric

> /dev/main/var   /var        ext4        defaults,nobarrier,usrquota,grpquota,nosuid,nodev,relatime,journal_async_commit,commit=30,user_xattr,acl 1  2
> Default mount options:    (none)
> /dev/mapper/main-var /var ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,journal_checksum,journal_async_commit,nobarrier,quota,usrquota,grpquota,commit=30,stripe=16,data=ordered,usrquota,grpquota 0 0
> 
> ...
> 
> Ah! it's turned on by journal_async_commit. OK, that alone argues
> against use of journal_async_commit, tested or not, and I'd not have
> turned it on if I'd noticed that.
> 
> (So, the combinations I'll be trying for effect on this bug are:
> 
>  journal_async_commit (as now)
>  journal_checksum
>  none
> 
> Technically to investigate all possibilities we should try
> journal_async_commit,no_journal_checksum, but this seems so unlikely to
> have ever been tested by anyone that it's not worth looking into...)
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-27 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87objupjlr.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>
     [not found] ` <20121023013343.GB6370@fieldses.org>
     [not found]   ` <87mwzdnuww.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>
     [not found]     ` <20121023143019.GA3040@fieldses.org>
     [not found]       ` <874nllxi7e.fsf_-_@spindle.srvr.nix>
     [not found]         ` <874nllxi7e.fsf_-_-AdTWujXS48Mg67Zj9sPl2A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-23 20:57           ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Nix
2012-10-23 22:19             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 22:47               ` Nix
2012-10-23 23:16                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 23:06               ` Nix
2012-10-23 23:28                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 23:34                   ` Nix
2012-10-24  0:57               ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 20:17                 ` Jan Kara
2012-10-26 15:25                   ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 19:13               ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24 21:31                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24 22:05                   ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24 23:47                   ` Nix
2012-10-25 17:02                   ` Felipe Contreras
     [not found]             ` <87pq48nbyz.fsf_-_-AdTWujXS48Mg67Zj9sPl2A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-24  1:13               ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24  4:15                 ` Nix
2012-10-24  4:27                   ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24  5:23                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24  7:00                       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-10-24 11:46                         ` Nix
2012-10-24 11:45                       ` Nix
2012-10-24 17:22                       ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 19:49                       ` Nix
2012-10-24 19:54                         ` Nix
2012-10-24 20:30                         ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 20:34                           ` Nix
2012-10-24 20:45                         ` Nix
2012-10-24 21:08                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24 23:27                           ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6 (when rebooting during umount) Nix
2012-10-24 23:42                             ` Nix
2012-10-25  1:10                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-25  1:45                               ` Nix
2012-10-25 14:12                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-25 14:15                                   ` Nix
2012-10-25 17:39                                     ` Nix
2012-10-25 11:06                               ` Nix
2012-10-26  0:22                               ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6 (when rebooting during umount) (possibly blockdev / arcmsr at fault??) Nix
2012-10-26 20:35             ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Eric Sandeen
2012-10-26 20:37               ` Nix
     [not found]                 ` <87wqydx957.fsf-AdTWujXS48Mg67Zj9sPl2A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 20:56                   ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                     ` <20121026205618.GC8614-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 20:59                       ` Nix
     [not found]                         ` <87objpx84k.fsf-AdTWujXS48Mg67Zj9sPl2A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 21:15                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 21:19                             ` Nix
     [not found]                               ` <87haphx76u.fsf-AdTWujXS48Mg67Zj9sPl2A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-27  0:22                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 12:45                                   ` Nix
2012-10-27 17:55                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 18:47                                       ` Nix
2012-10-27 21:19                                         ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 21:21                                           ` Nix
2012-10-27 21:23                                             ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 21:29                                               ` Nix
2012-10-27 21:34                                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 21:40                                                   ` Nix
     [not found]                                                   ` <09758CEA-74B5-48D0-8075-BB723A2CABBB@dilger.ca>
2012-10-29  2:09                                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 22:42                                           ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29  1:00                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29  1:04                                               ` Nix
2012-10-29  2:24                                               ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29  2:34                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29  2:35                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29  2:42                                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 18:30                                     ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <20121026211542.GE8614-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-27  3:11                               ` Jim Rees
2012-10-27  8:01               ` Testing ext4's journal via simulating a reboot via KVM Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-28  4:23             ` [PATCH] ext4: fix unjournaled inode bitmap modification Eric Sandeen
2012-10-28 13:59               ` Nix
2012-10-29  2:30               ` [PATCH -v3] " Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29  3:24                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29  5:07                 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-10-29 17:08                 ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found] <jXsTo-5lW-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <jXBDk-7vn-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <jXNl8-5m5-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <jXNOa-5MR-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <jXPGh-87s-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <jXTJW-4CH-55@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <jXUZj-6mo-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <jXVLH-7kO-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <jXW53-7CC-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <jXWeJ-7Lk-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2012-10-24 17:38                   ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Martin
2012-10-26 20:13                     ` Martin
2012-10-26 20:24                       ` Nix
2012-10-26 20:44                         ` Martin
2012-10-26 20:47                           ` Nix
2012-10-26 21:10                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 23:15                         ` Martin

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