From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/41] Richacls
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:58:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5612C85C.2060407@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHc6FU53mXg1k0KCNkWEjxyuC8iAUgWh-A76qX=C3Yth+qEyuQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2015-10-05 14:45, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:08:51AM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> here's another update of the richacl patch queue. At this stage, I would
>>> like to ask for final feedback so that the core and ext4 code (patches
>>> 1-19) can be merged in the 4.4 merge window. The nfsd and nfs code should
>>> then go through the respective maintainer trees.
>>
>> Now way in this form even if everyone agrees we should have these
>> bastard ACLs. I certainly disagree.
>
> Well, thanks for having a look at the patches.
>
>> Ayway, back to the VFS <-> FS interface. You still require tons of
>> boilderplate code in the filesystem which isn't required and we got rid
>> of for Posix ACLs. The filesystem should not look at the userspace
>> xattr format, please follow a model similar to ->get_acl and ->set_acl
>> for Posix ACLs.
>
> I will repost a version that has this cleaned up.
>
>> After that the wire up should be so trivial that you can wire up btrfs,
>> xfs and f2fs as well, which is important to make the feature mergeable.
>
> Why would the patch queue become more mergeable by having support for
> more filesystems in it? The filesystem specific code really isn't all
> that interesting.
I think the point is that a new VFS feature that is easy to integrate in
multiple filesystems should have support for those filesystems. A
decade ago, just having ext* support would probably have been fine, but
these days, XFS, BTRFS, and F2FS are used just as much (if not more) on
production systems as ext4, and having support for them right from the
start would significantly help with adoption of richacls.
>
>> And honestly I tink adding even more overload to xattrs is a really bad
>> idea and after 10 years of experience with that junk we really need to
>> learn and make new overloads proper system calls.
>
> Thanks,
> Andreas
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2015-09-27 22:08 [PATCH v8 00/41] Richacls Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:08 ` [PATCH v8 01/41] vfs: Add IS_ACL() and IS_RICHACL() tests Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:08 ` [PATCH v8 02/41] vfs: Add MAY_CREATE_FILE and MAY_CREATE_DIR permission flags Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:08 ` [PATCH v8 03/41] vfs: Add MAY_DELETE_SELF and MAY_DELETE_CHILD " Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:08 ` [PATCH v8 04/41] vfs: Make the inode passed to inode_change_ok non-const Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:08 ` [PATCH v8 05/41] vfs: Add permission flags for setting file attributes Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:08 ` [PATCH v8 06/41] richacl: In-memory representation and helper functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:08 ` [PATCH v8 07/41] richacl: Permission mapping functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:08 ` [PATCH v8 08/41] richacl: Compute maximum file masks from an acl Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 09/41] richacl: Update the file masks in chmod() Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-28 15:28 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-09-28 23:42 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 10/41] richacl: Permission check algorithm Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-28 16:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150928160855.GD1358-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28 16:25 ` Andreas Grünbacher
[not found] ` <CAHpGcMLHxF8uqbv-hCjKFHKxwemn0QdxZifT7WC95oHs7D3MfA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28 16:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150928162905.GE1358-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28 16:51 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 11/41] vfs: Cache base_acl objects in inodes Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 12/41] vfs: Cache richacl in struct inode Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 13/41] richacl: Check if an acl is equivalent to a file mode Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 14/41] richacl: Create-time inheritance Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 15/41] richacl: Automatic Inheritance Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 16/41] richacl: xattr mapping functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 17/41] vfs: Add richacl permission checking Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 18/41] ext4: Add richacl support Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 19/41] ext4: Add richacl feature flag Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 20/41] richacl: acl editing helper functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 21/41] richacl: Move everyone@ aces down the acl Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 22/41] richacl: Propagate everyone@ permissions to other aces Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 23/41] richacl: Set the owner permissions to the owner mask Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 24/41] richacl: Set the other permissions to the other mask Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 25/41] richacl: Isolate the owner and group classes Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 26/41] richacl: Apply the file masks to a richacl Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 27/41] richacl: Create richacl from mode values Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 28/41] nfsd: Keep list of acls to dispose of in compoundargs Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 29/41] nfsd: Use richacls as internal acl representation Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 30/41] nfsd: Add richacl support Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 31/41] nfsd: Add support for the v4.1 dacl attribute Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 32/41] nfsd: Add support for the MAY_CREATE_{FILE,DIR} permissions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 33/41] richacl: Add support for unmapped identifiers Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 34/41] ext4: Don't allow unmapped identifiers in richacls Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 35/41] sunrpc: Allow to demand-allocate pages to encode into Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 36/41] sunrpc: Add xdr_init_encode_pages Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 37/41] nfs: Fix GETATTR bitmap verification Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 38/41] nfs: Remove unused xdr page offsets in getacl/setacl arguments Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 39/41] nfs: Add richacl support Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 40/41] nfs: Add support for the v4.1 dacl attribute Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-27 22:09 ` [PATCH v8 41/41] richacl: uapi header split Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <1443391772-10171-1-git-send-email-agruenba-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28 16:35 ` [PATCH v8 00/41] Richacls J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150928163543.GF1358-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28 17:10 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2015-09-28 17:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150928174648.GA3190-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-29 14:54 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2015-10-16 18:12 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-10-04 6:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151004062313.GA20212-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-05 18:45 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-10-05 18:58 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2015-10-06 9:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151006094935.GA14144-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-06 13:12 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <CAHc6FU5aZJDC3N1iGyVeHfbqMyquM93ONJvUR-t0a9+AjmtAXQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-06 20:26 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <CF738526-0807-4CE5-A52B-413164D41AA9-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-06 20:55 ` Steve French
2015-10-07 7:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-07 13:38 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <CAHc6FU7TM5LDu_vVvDc3WPuzQN2mkGGp2AvCY+=qN0GvWuC=Ew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-07 15:15 ` Steve French
[not found] ` <CAHc6FU53mXg1k0KCNkWEjxyuC8iAUgWh-A76qX=C3Yth+qEyuQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-05 21:17 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-05 22:01 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <CAHc6FU5=nPVRRO+0MycYMMmp66hg7YvY4kMGy-D4JfgD3_FkLQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-06 1:20 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-06 9:49 ` James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.20.1510062047220.2329-gx6/JNMH7DfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-06 12:24 ` Andreas Grünbacher
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