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From: Jiaying Zhang <jiayingz@google.com>
To: Mingming <cmm@us.ibm.com>
Cc: ext4 development <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@google.com>,
	Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>,
	Manuel Benitez <rickyb@google.com>
Subject: Re: ext4 DIO read performance issue on SSD
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:48:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5df78e1d0910141248h1f537863n97991585e6147ca7@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1255546117.4377.62.camel@mingming-laptop>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Mingming <cmm@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 16:34 -0700, Jiaying Zhang wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Recently, we are evaluating the ext4 performance on a high speed SSD.
>> One problem we found is that ext4 performance doesn't scale well with
>> multiple threads or multiple AIOs reading a single file with O_DIRECT.
>> E.g., with 4k block size, multiple-thread DIO AIO random read on ext4
>> can lose up to 50% throughput compared to the results we get via RAW IO.
>>
>> After some initial analysis, we think the ext4 performance problem is caused
>> by the use of i_mutex lock during DIO read. I.e., during DIO read, we grab
>> the i_mutex lock in __blockdev_direct_IO because ext4 uses the default
>> DIO_LOCKING from the generic fs code. I did a quick test by calling
>> blockdev_direct_IO_no_locking() in ext4_direct_IO() and I saw ext4 DIO read
>> got 99% performance as raw IO.
>>
>
> This is very interesting...and impressive number.
>
> I tried to change ext4 to call blockdev_direct_IO_no_locking() directly,
> but then realize that we can't do this all the time, as ext4 support
> ext3 non-extent based files, and uninitialized extent is not support on
> ext3 format file.
>
>> As we understand, the reason why we want to take i_mutex lock during DIO
>> read is to prevent it from accessing stale data that may be exposed by a
>> simultaneous write. We saw that Mingming Cao has implemented a patch set
>> with which when a get_block request comes from direct write, ext4 only
>> allocates or splits an uninitialized extent. That uninitialized extent
>> will be marked as initialized at the end_io callback.
>
> Though I need to clarify that with all the patches in mainline, we only
> treat new allocated blocks form direct io write to holes, not to writes
> to the end of file. I actually have proposed to treat the write to the
> end of file also as unintialized extents, but there is some concerns
> that this getting tricky with updating inode size when it is async IO
> direct IO. So it didn't getting done yet.
>
>>  We are wondering
>> whether we can extend this idea to buffer write as well. I.e., we always
>> allocate an uninitialized extent first during any write and convert it
>> as initialized at the time of end_io callback. This will eliminate the need
>> to hold i_mutex lock during direct read because a DIO read should never get
>> a block marked initialized before the block has been written with new data.
>>
>
> Oh I don't think so. For buffered IO, the data is being copied to
> buffer, direct IO read would first flush what's in page cache to disk,

Hmm, do you mean the filemap_write_and_wait_range() in
__blockdev_direct_IO? Or do we flush page cache after calling
get_block in dio read?

Jiaying

> then read from disk. So if there is concurrent buffered write and direct
> read, removing the i_mutex locks from the direct IO path should still
> gurantee the right order, without having to treat buffered allocation
> with uninitialized extent/end_io.
>
> The i_mutex lock, from my understanding, is there to protect direct IO
> write to hole and concurrent direct IO read, we should able to remove
> this lock for extent based ext4 file.
>


>> We haven't implemented anything yet because we want to ask here first to
>> see whether this proposal makes sense to you.
>>
>
> It does make sense to me.
>
> Mingming
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jiaying
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-14 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-09 23:34 ext4 DIO read performance issue on SSD Jiaying Zhang
2009-10-14 18:48 ` Mingming
2009-10-14 19:48   ` Jiaying Zhang [this message]
2009-10-14 20:57     ` Mingming
2009-10-14 21:42       ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-10-15 17:27         ` Mingming
2009-10-16  1:27           ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-10-16 19:15             ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-20  1:26               ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-10-19 19:04             ` Mingming
2009-10-15  5:14   ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-10-15 17:31     ` Mingming
2009-10-15 20:07       ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-10-15 23:28         ` Mingming
2009-10-15 23:33           ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-10-16 18:56             ` Mingming
2009-10-16 19:44               ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-10-19 20:23                 ` Mingming

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