From: Peng Tao <bergwolf@gmail.com>
To: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
Akira Fujita <a-fujita@rs.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] e4defrag: fallocate donor file only once
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:08:33 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6149e97b0909032008m26e554c8x92750455e26a52a0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87f94c370909030230w6ab49265yf6e689cbae1d458c@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Greg Freemyer<greg.freemyer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Peng Tao<bergwolf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Greg Freemyer<greg.freemyer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Peng Tao<bergwolf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If we allocate the donor file once for all, it will have a better chance
>>>> to be continuous.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: "Peng Tao" <bergwolf@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Seems like an improvement, but I'm not seeing any special handling for
>>> sparse files. (Not before or after this patch.)
>>>
>>> Seems like there should be an outer loop that identifies contiguous
>>> data block sets in a sparse file and defrags them individually as
>>> opposed to trying to defrag the entire file at once.
>>>
>>> My impression is that with a large sparse file, e4defrag currently
>>> (with or without this patch) would fallocate a full non-sparse donor
>>> set of blocks the full size of the original file, then swap in just
>>> the truly allocated blocks?
>> Thanks for the reminder. The original code takes good care of sparse
>> files in join_extents(). Please ignore my patch.
>>
>> Sorry for the noise.
>
> RFC from a more ext4 knowledgeable person than me:
>
> The code in e4defrag still looks way to complex. I don't see why it
> needs to know so much about extents and groups.
>
> I just looked at util/copy_sparse.c
>
> It simply loops through all the blocks in the source file and calls
> ioctl(fd, FIBMAP, &b) to see if they are allocated vs. sparse,
>
> If allocated it copies the block from src to dest. Pretty straight
> forward and has none of the complexity of e4defrag.
>
> Seems to me e4defrag should have the actual defrag_file() rewritten to
> be something like:
>
> defrag_file() {
> loop through the blocks looking for the contiguous set of data blocks.
> defrag_contiguous_data(start_block, num_blocks)
> }
>
> defrag_contiguous_data(start_block, num_blocks) {
> // allocate one full extent at a time and donate the blocks to orig file
> for(start=start_block; start < start_block, num_blocks; start+=chunk) {
> fallocate(chunk);
> move_ext(orig, donor, start, 0, chunk);
> }
> }
>
> And then set chunk to be the max size of one extent. Maybe the
> "chunk" should be bigger than one extent?
>
> Also, I did not put any logic in above to show testing to see if the
> new file is less fragmented than the original. That will add to the
> complexity, but hopefully the actual defrag logic can be as relatively
> simple as the above instead of what it is now.
>
> Anyway, t would be a major change to e4defrag, but it seems that it
> would give ext4 a much better chance to reorganize itself by calling
> fallocate on full extent size chunks at minimum, instead of what the
> code currently does.
Hi, Greg,
The current e4defrag is doing most of work exactly same as your RFC,
and in a nicer manner. If you look into the code path, you'll see that
its logic is very much like the RFC except that it first fallocates a
donor file to see if a defragmentation is really necessary so it won't
have to fall back during defragmentation, which IMO is a good design
point.
Please correct me if I understand anything wrong.
>
> Greg
>
--
Cheers,
Peng Tao
State Key Laboratory of Networking and Switching Technology
Beijing Univ. of Posts and Telecoms.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-04 3:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-02 15:35 [PATCH] e4defrag: fallocate donor file only once Peng Tao
2009-09-02 22:09 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-09-02 22:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-09-03 8:00 ` Peng Tao
2009-09-03 9:30 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-09-04 3:08 ` Peng Tao [this message]
2009-09-04 12:36 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-09-04 16:56 ` Peng Tao
2009-09-04 19:10 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-09-05 16:29 ` Peng Tao
2009-09-08 15:41 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-09-09 1:24 ` Peng Tao
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=6149e97b0909032008m26e554c8x92750455e26a52a0@mail.gmail.com \
--to=bergwolf@gmail.com \
--cc=a-fujita@rs.jp.nec.com \
--cc=greg.freemyer@gmail.com \
--cc=linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=tytso@mit.edu \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).