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engine=8.12.0-2303200000 definitions=main-2304190122 X-Proofpoint-GUID: QdgmtpvnS264LVdqEwPhnHd7TmpjEouq X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: QdgmtpvnS264LVdqEwPhnHd7TmpjEouq Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 07:06:58 AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 5:11=E2=80=AFAM Darrick J. Wong wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 10:46:32AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 7:46=E2=80=AFAM Darrick J. Wong wrote: >> > > >> > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 03:18:05PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: >> > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 10:49=E2=80=AFPM Darrick J. Wong wrote: >> > ... >> > > > Darrick, >> > > > >> > > > Quick question. >> > > > You indicated that you would like to discuss the topics: >> > > > Atomic file contents exchange >> > > > Atomic directio writes >> > > >> > > This one ^^^^^^^^ topic should still get its own session, ideally wi= th >> > > Martin Petersen and John Garry running it. A few cloud vendors' >> > > software defined storage stacks can support multi-lba atomic writes,= and >> > > some database software could take advantage of that to reduce nested= WAL >> > > overhead. >> > > >> > >> > CC Martin. >> > If you want to lead this session, please schedule it. >> > >> > > > Are those intended to be in a separate session from online fsck? >> > > > Both in the same session? >> > > > >> > > > I know you posted patches for FIEXCHANGE_RANGE [1], >> > > > but they were hiding inside a huge DELUGE and people >> > > > were on New Years holidays, so nobody commented. >> > > >> > > After 3 years of sparse review comments, I decided to withdraw >> > > FIEXCHANGE_RANGE from general consideration after realizing that ver= y >> > > few filesystems actually have the infrastructure to support atomic f= ile >> > > contents exchange, hence there's little to be gained from undertakin= g >> > > fsdevel bikeshedding. >> > > >> > > > Perhaps you should consider posting an uptodate >> > > > topic suggestion to let people have an opportunity to >> > > > start a discussion before LSFMM. >> > > >> > > TBH, most of my fs complaints these days are managerial problems (Ar= e we >> > > spending too much time on LTS? How on earth do we prioritize projec= ts >> > > with all these drive by bots?? Why can't we support large engineeri= ng >> > > efforts better???) than technical. >> > >> > I penciled one session for "FS stable backporting (and other LTS woes)= ". >> > I made it a cross FS/IO session so we can have this session in the big= room >> > and you are welcome to pull this discussion to any direction you want. >> >> Ok, thank you. Hopefully we can get all the folks who do backports into >> this one. That might be a big ask for Chandan, depending on when you >> schedule it. >> >> (Unless it's schedule for 7pm :P) >> > > Oh thanks for reminding me! > I moved it to Wed 9am, so it is more convenient for Chandan. This maps to 9:30 AM for me. Thanks for selecting a time which is convenien= t for me. --=20 chandan