From: Ritesh Harjani (IBM) <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] iomap: Lift blocksize restriction on atomic writes
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:05:03 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7xgmpwo.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc6fddee-2707-4cca-b0b7-983c8dd17e16@oracle.com>
John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com> writes:
> On 25/10/2024 10:31, Ritesh Harjani (IBM) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> - if (atomic && length != fs_block_size)
>>>> + if (atomic && length != iter->len)
>>>> return -EINVAL;
>>> Here you expect just one iter for an atomic write always.
>> Here we are lifting the limitation of iomap to support entire iter->len
>> rather than just 1 fsblock.
>
> Sure
>
>>
>>> In 6/6, you are saying that iomap does not allow an atomic write which
>>> covers unwritten and written extents, right?
>> No, it's not that. If FS does not provide a full mapping to iomap in
>> ->iomap_begin then the writes will get split.
>
> but why would it provide multiple mapping?
>
>> For atomic writes this
>> should not happen, hence the check in iomap above to return -EINVAL if
>> mapped length does not match iter->len.
>>
>>> But for writing a single fs block atomically, we don't mandate it to be
>>> in unwritten state. So there is a difference in behavior in writing a
>>> single FS block vs multiple FS blocks atomically.
>> Same as mentioned above. We can't have atomic writes to get split.
>> This patch is just lifting the restriction of iomap to allow more than
>> blocksize but the mapped length should still meet iter->len, as
>> otherwise the writes can get split.
>
> Sure, I get this. But I wonder why would we be getting multiple
> mappings? Why cannot the FS always provide a single mapping?
FS can decide to split the mappings when it couldn't allocate a single
large mapping of the requested length. Could be due to -
- already allocated extent followed by EOF,
- already allocated extent followed by a hole
- already mapped extent followed by an extent of different type (e.g. written followed by unwritten or unwritten followed by written)
- delalloc (not delalloc since we invalidate respective page cache pages before doing DIO).
- fragmentation or ENOSPC - For ext4 bigalloc this will not happen since
we reserve the entire cluster. So we know there should be space. But I
am not sure how other filesystems might end up implementing this functionality.
Thanks!
-ritesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-25 10:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-25 3:45 [PATCH 0/6] ext4: Add atomic write support for DIO Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-10-25 3:45 ` [PATCH 1/6] ext4: Add statx support for atomic writes Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-10-25 9:41 ` John Garry
2024-10-25 10:08 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 16:09 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-10-25 17:45 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 3:45 ` [PATCH 2/6] ext4: Check for atomic writes support in write iter Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-10-25 9:44 ` John Garry
2024-10-25 10:33 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 16:11 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-10-25 17:50 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 3:45 ` [PATCH 3/6] ext4: Support setting FMODE_CAN_ATOMIC_WRITE Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-10-25 3:45 ` [PATCH 4/6] ext4: Warn if we ever fallback to buffered-io for DIO atomic writes Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-10-25 16:16 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-10-25 17:51 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-27 22:26 ` Dave Chinner
2024-10-28 1:09 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-28 5:26 ` Dave Chinner
2024-10-28 8:43 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-28 18:14 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-29 22:29 ` Dave Chinner
2024-10-29 23:51 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 3:45 ` [PATCH 5/6] iomap: Lift blocksize restriction on " Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2024-10-25 8:52 ` John Garry
2024-10-25 9:31 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 9:59 ` John Garry
2024-10-25 10:35 ` Ritesh Harjani [this message]
2024-10-25 11:07 ` John Garry
2024-10-25 11:19 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 12:23 ` John Garry
2024-10-25 12:36 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 14:04 ` John Garry
2024-10-25 14:13 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-25 18:28 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-10-26 4:35 ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-10-31 21:36 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-11-04 1:52 ` Dave Chinner
2024-11-05 0:09 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-10-25 3:45 ` [PATCH 6/6] ext4: Add atomic write support for bigalloc Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
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