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From: Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, ext4 development <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: per inode fsync optimization question
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 19:41:38 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqsjpqod.fsf@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130403151522.GE14667@quack.suse.cz>

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:15:22 +0200, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> On Wed 03-04-13 19:09:33, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:50:55 +0200, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > On Wed 03-04-13 18:21:46, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> > > > inode store i_sync_tid and i_datasync_tid  in order to optimize journal
> > > > flushes and wait for commits only when necessary, but
> > > > fields are declared as tid_t(not atomic_t as it done in ext3) so we
> > > > have not synchronization between readers and writers, so gcc and cpu
> > > > is allowed to perform prefetch, cache and other stuff.
> > > > Looks like a bug, right?
> > >   Reads and writes to atomic_t aren't guaranteed to be any kind of a
> > > barrier (if fact they are compiled as simple stores and loads on x86). Only
> > > arithmetic operations on atomic types are special. So using tid_t is just
> > > fine.
> > Ok but what about prefetching?
> > Compiler is allowed to prefetch on early stage ?
> > should we use ACCESS_ONCE() or wmb() and rmb() here?
>   Yes, but prefetch can hardly happen before the syscall is started and
> value from that time is enough. We just have to be sure that if user can
> prove write(2) happened before fsync(2), then data written by write(2) are
> on disk. So I don't think we need any barriers there.
Sorry for be annoying but what prevents us from following situation?:
DD:
fallocate(2)
write(2)

fsync(2)                       
 {prefetch}commit_tid = ie->i_sync_tid (T1)
                                               [flushd]
                                                ->convert_extents
                                                  -> ei->i_sync_tid = current_tid (T2)
 
 Observe that commit_tid == T1 (too old)
 issue a barrier and exit but
 data still in transaction which is not yet committed
> 
> 								Honza
> -- 
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-03 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-03 14:21 per inode fsync optimization question Dmitry Monakhov
2013-04-03 14:50 ` Jan Kara
2013-04-03 15:09   ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-04-03 15:15     ` Jan Kara
2013-04-03 15:41       ` Dmitry Monakhov [this message]
2013-04-03 16:03         ` Jan Kara

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