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From: Yongqiang Yang <xiaoqiangnk@gmail.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: "Pádraig Brady" <P@draigbrady.com>, xfs-oss <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, coreutils@gnu.org,
	"Markus Trippelsdorf" <markus@trippelsdorf.de>
Subject: Re: Files full of zeros with coreutils-8.11 and xfs (FIEMAP related?)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:04:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikW72q_2pEoVTmag8+gMsCcZ-fR8w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DA71920.9@sandeen.net>

2011/4/14 Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>:
> On 4/14/11 10:52 AM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
>> On 14/04/11 16:50, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>>> On 4/14/11 9:59 AM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
>>>> On 14/04/11 15:02, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Pádraig,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here you go:
>>>>>>> + filefrag -v unwritten.withdata
>>>>>>> Filesystem type is: ef53
>>>>>>> File size of unwritten.withdata is 5120 (2 blocks, blocksize 4096)
>>>>>>>  ext logical physical expected length flags
>>>>>>>    0       0   274432            2560 unwritten,eof
>>>>>>> unwritten.withdata: 1 extent found
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please notice that this also happens with ext4 on the same kernel.
>>>>>>> Btrfs is fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>> `filefrag -vs` fixes the issue on both xfs and ext4.
>>>>
>>>> So in summary, currently on (2.6.39-rc3), the following
>>>> will (usually?) report a single unwritten extent,
>>>> on both ext4 and xfs
>>>>
>>>>   fallocate -l 10MiB -n k
>>>>   dd count=10 if=/dev/urandom conv=notrunc iflag=fullblock of=k
>>>>   filefrag -v k # grep for an extent without unwritten || fail
>>>
>>> right, that's what I see too in testing.
>>>
>>> But would the coreutils install have done a preallocation of the destination file?
>>>
>>> Otherwise this looks like a different bug...
>>>
>>>> This particular issue has been discussed so far at:
>>>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8411
>>>> Note there it was stated there that ext4 had this
>>>> fixed as of 2.6.39-rc1, so maybe there is something lurking?
>>>
>>> ext4 got a fix, but not xfs, I guess.  My poor brain can't remember, I think I started looking into it, but it's clearly still broken.
>>>
>>> Still, I don't know for sure what happened to Markus - did something preallocate, in his case?
>>
>> Well that preallocate test is failing for him
>> when the source file is either on ext4 or xfs.
>> He noticed the issue initially on XFS when copying
>> none preallocated files, so XFS probably just has
>> the general issue of needing a sync before fiemap,
>> where as EXT4 just has this preallocate one
>> (though I've not seen it myself).
>>
>> cheers,
>> Pádraig.
>>
>
> well, if I simply take the preallocation step out of the testcase, it works fine on xfs without a sync.
>
> So I still don't know what Markus hit...
Sorry for that my patch ignored fallocate.  The situation is like this:
An user allocated space for a file with fallocate, and write a small
part of it. and the written is not flushed.
The extent stays one unwritten extent in disk and memory with delayed
allocation.

In ext4 ext4_ext_walk_space() thinks an extent does not exist only if
there is no any extents on disk.  So ext4_ext_walk_space()
thinks there is a extent and   ext4_ext_fiemap_cb() thus ignores pagecache.

I think ext4_ext_walk_space() should take unwritten extent not exist.

Yongqiang.
>
> -Eric
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-14 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110414102608.GA1678@x4.trippels.de>
     [not found] ` <20110414120635.GB1678@x4.trippels.de>
     [not found]   ` <20110414140222.GB1679@x4.trippels.de>
     [not found]     ` <20110414140222.GB1679-tLCgZGx+iJ+kxVt8IV0GqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 14:59       ` Files full of zeros with coreutils-8.11 and xfs (FIEMAP related?) Pádraig Brady
     [not found]         ` <4DA70BD3.1070409-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 15:50           ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]             ` <4DA717B2.3020305-+82itfer+wXR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 15:52               ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-14 15:56                 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:03                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:14                     ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]                     ` <20110414160343.GA12787-tLCgZGx+iJ+kxVt8IV0GqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 16:21                       ` Yongqiang Yang
     [not found]                         ` <BANLkTimRxvBMp9M7zwiUY_UmmFOY5N58+A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 16:28                           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:31                             ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:48                               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:49                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:04                   ` Yongqiang Yang [this message]
2011-04-14 16:10                     ` Yongqiang Yang
     [not found]                       ` <BANLkTimoLeWMJgNFGW+zdeUeJyZ-_+8fMQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-05 11:29                         ` Pádraig Brady
2011-05-05 11:47                           ` Yongqiang Yang
     [not found]                 ` <4DA7182B.8050409-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 17:27                   ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-14 19:13                     ` Pádraig Brady
     [not found]                     ` <878vvcspz0.fsf-CybKA8TIZ99x3y/oJEDuiw@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 19:39                       ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-14 22:59             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-14 23:29               ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-15  0:09                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-15  5:01                   ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-16  0:50                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-16  5:11                       ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-16 12:21                         ` Theodore Tso
2011-04-18  0:40                           ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-18  2:45                             ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-19  1:58                               ` Yongqiang Yang
     [not found]                                 ` <BANLkTin=WEpSf6ddiOMNMOpCPP-wiEttSw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19  2:59                                   ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]                                     ` <20110419025949.GA3030-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19  3:05                                       ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]                                         ` <4DACFBEB.9040909-+82itfer+wXR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-21 20:12                                           ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-19  3:30                                     ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19  4:14                                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19  5:27                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-19  3:44                                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19  6:53                                   ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19  7:45                                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19  8:11                                       ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19 14:05                                         ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-19 14:09                                       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-19 14:13                                         ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-19 16:01                                           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-20  1:53                                             ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-20 15:21                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-20 17:21                                               ` Ted Ts'o
     [not found]                                         ` <20110419140909.GD3030-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19 21:08                                           ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-20 15:29                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-16  6:05                       ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-18  0:35                         ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-15  8:53                   ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-15 17:16                     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                       ` <20110415171629.GA9088-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-15 17:24                         ` Eric Blake
2011-04-15 17:26                           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                             ` <20110415172603.GA20086-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-15 22:28                               ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-16  0:25                                 ` Dave Chinner
     [not found] ` <20110414102608.GA1678-tLCgZGx+iJ+kxVt8IV0GqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-20 14:39   ` Jim Meyering
     [not found]     ` <87d3khugv1.fsf-CybKA8TIZ99x3y/oJEDuiw@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-21 20:01       ` Jim Meyering

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