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From: "Maciej Żenczykowski" <maze@google.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Maciej Żenczykowski" <maze@google.com>,
	"Fengguang Wu" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"Marti Raudsepp" <marti@juffo.org>,
	"Kernel hackers" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ext4 hackers" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NULL pointer dereference in ext4_ext_remove_space on 3.5.1
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:44:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANP3RGfwQCJu7TLF4KXAJ-qPrHQDbuPzRCd72O41CUi2G1azJg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120816222629.GG31346@thunk.org>

> Thanks, that's really helpful.   I can say that using a 4MB journal and
> running fsstress is _not_ enough to trigger the problem.
>
> Looking more closely at what might be needed to trigger the bug, 'i'
> gets left uninitialized when err is set to -EAGAIN, and that happens
> when ext4_ext_truncate_extend_restart() is unable to extend the
> journal transaction.  But that also means we need to be deleting a
> sufficiently large enough file that the blocks span multiple block
> groups (which is why we need to extend the transaction, so we can
> modify more bitmap blocks) at the point when there is no more room in
> the journal, so we have to close the current transaction, and then
> retry it again with a new journal handle in a new transaction.
>
> So that implies that untaring a bunch of kernels probably won't be
> sufficient, since the files will be too small.  What we probably will
> need to do is to fill a large file system with lots of large files,
> use a small journal, and then try to do an rm -rf.
>
>                                              - Ted

My suggestion of untarring kernels was to cause the big multi gigabyte
files created later on to be massively fragmented, and thus have tons
of extents and a relatively deep extent tree.
But maybe that's not needed to trigger this bug, if as you say, it is
caused by the absolute number of disks blocks being freed and not by
the size/depth/complexity of the extent tree.
My knowledge of the internals of ext4 is pretty much non-existent. ;-)
 In this case I'm just an end user.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-16 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-15 18:33 NULL pointer dereference in ext4_ext_remove_space on 3.5.1 Marti Raudsepp
2012-08-16  2:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-16 11:10   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-08-16 15:25     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-16 20:21       ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2012-08-16 21:19         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-16 21:40           ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2012-08-16 22:26             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-16 22:44               ` Maciej Żenczykowski [this message]
2012-08-17  6:01       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-08-17 13:15         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-17 13:22           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-08-17 13:50           ` [PATCH] ext4: fix kernel BUG on large-scale rm -rf commands Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-17 17:48           ` NULL pointer dereference in ext4_ext_remove_space on 3.5.1 Christoph Hellwig
2012-08-17 20:34             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-17 21:05               ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-08-17 22:55                 ` Dave Chinner
2012-08-17 23:11                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-17  6:09       ` ext4 write performance regression in 3.6-rc1 Fengguang Wu
2012-08-17 13:40         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-17 14:13           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-08-17 14:25           ` ext4 write performance regression in 3.6-rc1 on RAID0/5 Fengguang Wu
     [not found]             ` <20120817151318.GA2341@localhost>
2012-08-17 15:37               ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-17 20:44             ` NeilBrown
2012-08-21  9:42               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-08-21 12:07                 ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]             ` <20120822035702.GF2570@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2012-08-22  4:07               ` Shaohua Li
2012-08-22  6:00               ` NeilBrown
2012-08-22  6:31                 ` Yuanhan Liu
2012-08-22  7:14                 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-08-22 20:47                 ` Dan Williams
2012-08-22 21:59                   ` NeilBrown
2012-09-17 12:21   ` NULL pointer dereference in ext4_ext_remove_space on 3.5.1 Dmitry Monakhov
2012-09-17 13:52     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-09-17 14:48       ` Dmitry Monakhov
2012-08-16  9:00 ` Fengguang Wu

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