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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Sarthak Kukreti <sarthakkukreti@chromium.org>
Cc: dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@google.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Daniil Lunev <dlunev@google.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] block: Introduce provisioning primitives
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 12:17:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZEAUHnWqt9cIiJRb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230419153611.GE360885@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Wed, Apr 19 2023 at 11:36P -0400,
Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 03:12:04PM -0700, Sarthak Kukreti wrote:
> > Introduce block request REQ_OP_PROVISION. The intent of this request
> > is to request underlying storage to preallocate disk space for the given
> > block range. Block devices that support this capability will export
> > a provision limit within their request queues.
> > 
> > This patch also adds the capability to call fallocate() in mode 0
> > on block devices, which will send REQ_OP_PROVISION to the block
> > device for the specified range,
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Sarthak Kukreti <sarthakkukreti@chromium.org>
> > ---
> >  block/blk-core.c          |  5 ++++
> >  block/blk-lib.c           | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  block/blk-merge.c         | 18 +++++++++++++
> >  block/blk-settings.c      | 19 ++++++++++++++
> >  block/blk-sysfs.c         |  8 ++++++
> >  block/bounce.c            |  1 +
> >  block/fops.c              | 25 +++++++++++++-----
> >  include/linux/bio.h       |  6 +++--
> >  include/linux/blk_types.h |  5 +++-
> >  include/linux/blkdev.h    | 16 ++++++++++++
> >  10 files changed, 147 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > 
> 
> <cut to the fallocate part; the block/ changes look fine to /me/ at
> first glance, but what do I know... ;)>
> 
> > diff --git a/block/fops.c b/block/fops.c
> > index d2e6be4e3d1c..e1775269654a 100644
> > --- a/block/fops.c
> > +++ b/block/fops.c
> > @@ -611,9 +611,13 @@ static ssize_t blkdev_read_iter(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *to)
> >  	return ret;
> >  }
> >  
> > +#define	BLKDEV_FALLOC_FL_TRUNCATE				\
> 
> At first I thought from this name that you were defining a new truncate
> mode for fallocate, then I realized that this is mask for deciding if we
> /want/ to truncate the pagecache.
> 
> #define		BLKDEV_FALLOC_TRUNCATE_MASK ?
> 
> > +		(FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE |	FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE |	\
> 
> Ok, so discarding and writing zeroes truncates the page cache, makes
> sense since we're "writing" directly to the block device.
> 
> > +		 FALLOC_FL_NO_HIDE_STALE)
> 
> Here things get tricky -- some of the FALLOC_FL mode bits are really an
> opcode and cannot be specified together, whereas others select optional
> behavior for certain opcodes.
> 
> IIRC, the mutually exclusive opcodes are:
> 
> 	PUNCH_HOLE
> 	ZERO_RANGE
> 	COLLAPSE_RANGE
> 	INSERT_RANGE
> 	(none of the above, for allocation)
> 
> and the "variants on a theme are":
> 
> 	KEEP_SIZE
> 	NO_HIDE_STALE
> 	UNSHARE_RANGE
> 
> not all of which are supported by all the opcodes.
> 
> Does it make sense to truncate the page cache if userspace passes in
> mode == NO_HIDE_STALE?  There's currently no defined meaning for this
> combination, but I think this means we'll truncate the pagecache before
> deciding if we're actually going to issue any commands.
> 
> I think that's just a bug in the existing code -- it should be
> validating that @mode is any of the supported combinations *before*
> truncating the pagecache.
> 
> Otherwise you could have a mkfs program that starts writing new fs
> metadata, decides to provision the storage (say for a logging region),
> doesn't realize it's running on an old kernel, and then oops the
> provision attempt fails but have we now shredded the pagecache and lost
> all the writes?

While that just caused me to have an "oh shit, that's crazy" (in a
scary way) belly laugh...
(And obviously needs fixing independent of this patchset)

Shouldn't mkfs first check that the underlying storage supports
REQ_OP_PROVISION by verifying
/sys/block/<dev>/queue/provision_max_bytes exists and is not 0?
(Just saying, we need to add new features more defensively.. you just
made the case based on this scenario's implications alone)

Sarthak, please note I said "provision_max_bytes": all other ops
(e.g. DISCARD, WRITE_ZEROES, etc) have <op>_max_bytes exported through
sysfs, not <op>_max_sectors.  Please export provision_max_bytes, e.g.:

diff --git a/block/blk-sysfs.c b/block/blk-sysfs.c
index 202aa78f933e..2e5ac7b1ffbd 100644
--- a/block/blk-sysfs.c
+++ b/block/blk-sysfs.c
@@ -605,12 +605,12 @@ QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_io_min, "minimum_io_size");
 QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_io_opt, "optimal_io_size");
 
 QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_max_discard_segments, "max_discard_segments");
-QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_max_provision_sectors, "max_provision_sectors");
 QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_discard_granularity, "discard_granularity");
 QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_discard_max_hw, "discard_max_hw_bytes");
 QUEUE_RW_ENTRY(queue_discard_max, "discard_max_bytes");
 QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_discard_zeroes_data, "discard_zeroes_data");
 
+QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_provision_max, "provision_max_bytes");
 QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_write_same_max, "write_same_max_bytes");
 QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_write_zeroes_max, "write_zeroes_max_bytes");
 QUEUE_RO_ENTRY(queue_zone_append_max, "zone_append_max_bytes");

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-19 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20221229071647.437095-1-sarthakkukreti@chromium.org>
2023-04-14  0:02 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Introduce provisioning primitives for thinly provisioned storage Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-14  0:02   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] block: Introduce provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-17 17:35     ` Brian Foster
2023-04-18 22:13       ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-14  0:02   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] dm: Add support for block provisioning Sarthak Kukreti
     [not found]     ` <CAJ0trDbyqoKEDN4kzcdn+vWhx+hk6pTM4ndf-E02f3uT9YZ3Uw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-04-14 18:14       ` Mike Snitzer
2023-04-14 21:58     ` Mike Snitzer
2023-04-18 22:13       ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-14  0:02   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] loop: Add support for provision requests Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-18 22:12   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Introduce provisioning primitives for thinly provisioned storage Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-18 22:12     ` [PATCH v4 1/4] block: Introduce provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-18 22:43       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-04-20 17:41         ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-19 15:36       ` [dm-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2023-04-19 16:17         ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2023-04-19 17:26           ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-04-19 23:21             ` Dave Chinner
2023-04-20  0:53               ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-18 22:12     ` [PATCH v4 2/4] dm: Add block provisioning support Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-18 22:12     ` [PATCH v4 3/4] dm-thin: Add REQ_OP_PROVISION support Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-18 22:12     ` [PATCH v4 4/4] loop: Add support for provision requests Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20  0:48   ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Introduce block provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20  0:48     ` [PATCH v5 1/5] block: Don't invalidate pagecache for invalid falloc modes Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20  1:22       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-04-20  1:48         ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20  1:47       ` [PATCH v5-fix " Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20 16:20         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-04-20 17:28           ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20 18:17             ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20 18:15           ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-24 15:54       ` [PATCH v5 " kernel test robot
2023-05-04  8:50       ` kernel test robot
2023-04-20  0:48     ` [PATCH v5 2/5] block: Introduce provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20  0:48     ` [PATCH v5 3/5] dm: Add block provisioning support Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20  0:48     ` [PATCH v5 4/5] dm-thin: Add REQ_OP_PROVISION support Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-01 19:15       ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-06  6:32         ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-04-20  0:48     ` [PATCH v5 5/5] loop: Add support for provision requests Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-06  6:29     ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Introduce block provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-06  6:29       ` [PATCH v6 1/5] block: Don't invalidate pagecache for invalid falloc modes Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-09 16:51         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-12 18:31         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-06  6:29       ` [PATCH v6 2/5] block: Introduce provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-09 16:52         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-12 18:37         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-15 21:55           ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-06  6:29       ` [PATCH v6 3/5] dm: Add block provisioning support Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-09 16:52         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-06  6:29       ` [PATCH v6 4/5] dm-thin: Add REQ_OP_PROVISION support Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-09 16:58         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-11 20:03           ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-12 14:34             ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-12 17:32         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-15 21:19           ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-06  6:29       ` [PATCH v6 5/5] loop: Add support for provision requests Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-15 12:40         ` Brian Foster
2023-05-15 21:31           ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-12 18:28       ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Introduce block provisioning primitives Darrick J. Wong

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