From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>, Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, ntfs3@lists.linux.dev,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/6] fs: enhance and rename shutdown() callback to remove_bdev()
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 15:05:37 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGynIewLL-05fuoJ@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bdce1e62-c6dd-4f40-b207-cfaf4c5e25e4@gmx.com>
On Tue, Jul 08, 2025 at 12:36:48PM +0930, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> 在 2025/7/8 11:39, Qu Wenruo 写道:
> > 在 2025/7/8 10:15, Darrick J. Wong 写道:
> > > > Yes, the naming is not perfect and mixing cause and action, but the end
> > > > result is still a more generic and less duplicated code base.
> > >
> > > I think dchinner makes a good point that if your filesystem can do
> > > something clever on device removal, it should provide its own block
> > > device holder ops instead of using fs_holder_ops.
> >
> > Then re-implement a lot of things like bdev_super_lock()?
IDGI. Simply add:
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(get_bdev_super);
And the problem is solved.
> > I'd prefer not.
> >
> >
> > fs_holder_ops solves a lot of things like handling mounting/inactive
> > fses, and pushing it back again to the fs code is just causing more
> > duplication.
This is all encapsulated in get_bdev_super(), so btrfs doesn't need
to implement any of this. get_bdev_super/deactivate_super is the API
you should be using with the blk_holder_ops methods.
> > Not really worthy if we only want a single different behavior.
This is the *3rd* different behaviour for ->mark_dead. We
have the generic behaviour, the bcachefs behaviour, and now the
btrfs behaviour (whatever that may be).
> > Thus I strongly prefer to do with the existing fs_holder_ops, no matter
> > if it's using/renaming the shutdown() callback, or a new callback.
>
> Previously Christoph is against a new ->remove_bdev() callback, as it is
> conflicting with the existing ->shutdown().
>
> So what about a new ->handle_bdev_remove() callback, that we do something
> like this inside fs_bdev_mark_dead():
>
> {
> bdev_super_lock();
> if (!surprise)
> sync_filesystem();
>
> if (s_op->handle_bdev_remove) {
> ret = s_op->handle_bdev_remove();
> if (!ret) {
> super_unlock_shared();
> return;
> }
> }
> shrink_dcache_sb();
> evict_inodes();
> if (s_op->shutdown)
> s_op->shutdown();
> }
>
> So that the new ->handle_bdev_remove() is not conflicting with
> ->shutdown() but an optional one.
>
> And if the fs can not handle the removal, just let
> ->handle_bdev_remove() return an error so that we fallback to the existing
> shutdown routine.
>
> Would this be more acceptable?
No.
-Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-08 5:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <cover.1751589725.git.wqu@suse.com>
2025-07-04 0:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] fs: enhance and rename shutdown() callback to remove_bdev() Qu Wenruo
2025-07-04 9:00 ` (subset) " Christian Brauner
2025-07-04 9:05 ` Jan Kara
2025-07-07 23:02 ` Dave Chinner
2025-07-07 23:22 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-07-08 0:45 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-08 2:09 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-07-08 3:06 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-07-08 5:05 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2025-07-08 5:41 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-07-08 7:55 ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-08 22:59 ` Dave Chinner
2025-07-08 23:07 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-07-09 0:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-07-09 0:55 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-07-09 1:13 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-07-10 8:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-10 10:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-08 10:20 ` Jan Kara
2025-07-08 20:20 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-08 22:12 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-07-10 8:40 ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-10 9:54 ` Qu Wenruo
2025-07-11 9:34 ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-10 10:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-09 17:23 Jan Kara
2025-07-09 17:49 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-07-10 13:10 ` Jan Kara
2025-07-10 18:41 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-07-11 14:20 ` Jan Kara
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