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From: Dave Dykstra <dwd@cern.ch>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fuse2fs: mount norecovery if main block device is readonly
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 15:20:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPKk8N1_ssr3f6Zd@cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251017193841.GH6170@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 12:38:41PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 02:34:18PM -0500, Dave Dykstra wrote:
...
> > > +		err_printf(ff, "%s.\n",
> > > +			   _("read-only device, trying to mount norecovery"));
> > > +		flags &= ~EXT2_FLAG_RW;
> > > +		ff->ro = 1;
> > > +		ff->norecovery = 1;
> > 
> > I don't think it's good to switch to read-only+norecovery even when a
> > read-write mode was requested.  That goes too far.
> 
> The block device cannot be opened for write, so the mount cannot allow
> user programs to write to files, and the fs driver cannot recover the
> journal and it cannot write to the disk.  The only other choice would
> be to fail the mount.

Yes, I think it's better to fail the mount if recovery is needed and it
can't be done.

> norecovery is wrong though.  The kernel fails the mount if the journal
> needs recovery, the block device is ro, and the user didn't specify
> norecovery.

That makes more sense.

> > It also doesn't catch when recovery is needed.
> 
> What specifically do you mean "catch when recovery is needed"?  68 lines
> down from the ext2fs_open2 call is a check for the needsrecovery state,
> followed by recovering the journal.

I meant that it should fail in that case because it can't recover.

> > My proposed patch only reopens read-only
> > when ro was requested and then later checks to see if recovery is needed
> > and if so, errors out.
> 
> Your patch also didn't re-check the feature support after reopening the
> block device, which you dismissed even though that can lead to
> catastrophic behavior.

In this version of the patch there is no reopening, there is only a
switch to open without RW if the RW open fails.  So all feature checks
happen after it.

Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-17 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-15 23:59 [PATCHSET 4/6] fuse2fs: use fuseblk mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-16  0:03 ` [PATCH 1/2] fuse2fs: mount norecovery if main block device is readonly Darrick J. Wong
2025-10-16 19:34   ` Dave Dykstra
2025-10-17 19:38     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-10-17 20:20       ` Dave Dykstra [this message]
2025-10-17 23:30         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-16  0:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] fuse2fs: use fuseblk mode for mounting filesystems Darrick J. Wong

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