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From: Zhang Yi <yizhang089@gmail.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Zhang Yi <yi.zhang@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Guanghui Yang <3497809730@qq.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Baokun Li <libaokun@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>,
	Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext4: orphan tracking after a failed truncate
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2026 23:18:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <daa118a5-1efb-49dd-9038-49d0c0b351fc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aoRhIeFzNqHg34jg@mit.edu>

On 8/18/2026 9:48 PM, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 12:41:57PM -0500, Zhang Yi wrote:
>> I think we might want to add a small qualifier here: this is only expected
>> behavior under errors=continue. For the remount-ro case, we immediately
>> abort the journal to prevent writing out inconsistent metadata after an I/O
>> error, which helps contain the damage. So after journal replay, the file
>> system should still be able to maintain a consistent state.
> 
> Errors={continue,remount-ro,panic} only apply if the ext4_error()
> family is called.  The problem is that ext4_ext_remove_space(), which
> is called by ext4_ext_truncate() calls read_extent_tree_block() and if
> it returns an error, it returns EIO without actually calling
> ext4_error().  So the truncate system call will return EIO, with
> i_size set to zero, but with blocks beyond EOF still left allocated.
> 

I checked the code. Apart from the verity path, all callers
of ext4_truncate() already call ext4_handle_error() when it returns
an error. So it doesn't look like there's any issue with truncate
at the moment. So I suspect that Guanghui won't be able to reproduce
this issue in remount-ro mode, and I'd suggest that similar consistency
tests under fault injection scenarios should all be run in remount-ro
mode.

> As I menstioned, that's not _fatal_ in that case, since blocks beyond
> EOF can happen with fallocate(2) with FALLOC_FL_KEEP_SIZE.  But it
> could be a bit surprising, since truncate return an error, but the
> file was actually apparently truncated (or partially truncated, in any
> case).
> 

It seems we can't guarantee that the file being truncated is always
preallocated. If the blocks were already in written state, then after
we update i_disksize to 0 but there are still blocks left unreleased,
fsck will still complain, Did I get this right?

Best Regards
Yi.

> We could change it to call ext4_error() which would signal the system
> administrator would get a clear signal that she should run fsck, but
> in terms of bugs, it's not as serious as if the file system was left
> actually corrupted.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 					- Ted
> 


      reply	other threads:[~2026-08-20 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-09  5:45 [RFC] ext4: orphan tracking after a failed truncate Guanghui Yang
2026-08-17 15:56 ` Jan Kara
2026-08-18  3:04   ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18  4:41   ` Zhang Yi
2026-08-18 13:48     ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-20 15:18       ` Zhang Yi [this message]

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