From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [patch,rfc v2] ext3/4: enhance fsync performance when using cfq
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:52:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49ochc1qbo.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <z2u170fa0d21004211342ncaf04f90h2cd7ebe832dcc46a@mail.gmail.com> (Mike Snitzer's message of "Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:42:38 -0400")
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com> writes:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 08 2010, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 01:04:42PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Apr 07 2010, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> > > On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 05:18:12PM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>>> > > > Hi again,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > So, here's another stab at fixing this. This patch is very much an RFC,
>>> > > > so do not pull it into anything bound for Linus. ;-) For those new to
>>> > > > this topic, here is the original posting: http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/1/344
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The basic problem is that, when running iozone on smallish files (up to
>>> > > > 8MB in size) and including fsync in the timings, deadline outperforms
>>> > > > CFQ by a factor of about 5 for 64KB files, and by about 10% for 8MB
>>> > > > files. From examining the blktrace data, it appears that iozone will
>>> > > > issue an fsync() call, and will have to wait until it's CFQ timeslice
>>> > > > has expired before the journal thread can run to actually commit data to
>>> > > > disk.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The approach below puts an explicit call into the filesystem-specific
>>> > > > fsync code to yield the disk so that the jbd[2] process has a chance to
>>> > > > issue I/O. This bring performance of CFQ in line with deadline.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > There is one outstanding issue with the patch that Vivek pointed out.
>>> > > > Basically, this could starve out the sync-noidle workload if there is a
>>> > > > lot of fsync-ing going on. I'll address that in a follow-on patch. For
>>> > > > now, I wanted to get the idea out there for others to comment on.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks a ton to Vivek for spotting the problem with the initial
>>> > > > approach, and for his continued review.
>>> > > >
> ...
>>> > > So we got to take care of two issues now.
>>> > >
>>> > > - Make it work with dm/md devices also. Somehow shall have to propogate
>>> > > this yield semantic down the stack.
>>> >
>>> > The way that Jeff set it up, it's completely parallel to eg congestion
>>> > or unplugging. So that should be easily doable.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Ok, so various dm targets now need to define "yield_fn" and propogate the
>>> yield call to all the component devices.
>>
>> Exactly.
>
> To do so doesn't DM (and MD) need a blk_queue_yield() setter to
> establish its own yield_fn? The established dm_yield_fn would call
> blk_yield() for all real devices in a given DM target. Something like
> how blk_queue_merge_bvec() or blk_queue_make_request() allow DM to
> provide functional extensions.
>
> I'm not seeing such a yield_fn hook for stacking drivers to use. And
> as is, jbd and jbd2 just call blk_yield() directly and there is no way
> for the block layer to call into DM.
>
> What am I missing?
Nothing, it is I who am missing something (extra code). When I send out
the next version, I'll add the setter function and ensure that
queue->yield_fn is called from blk_yield. Hopefully that's not viewed
as upside down. We'll see.
Thanks for the review, Mike!
-Jeff
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-21 20:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-07 21:18 [patch,rfc v2] ext3/4: enhance fsync performance when using cfq Jeff Moyer
2010-04-07 21:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-08 11:04 ` Jens Axboe
2010-04-08 14:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-08 14:09 ` Jens Axboe
2010-04-08 14:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-08 14:24 ` Jeff Moyer
2010-04-08 19:23 ` Jens Axboe
2010-04-21 20:42 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-04-21 20:52 ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2010-04-08 11:00 ` Jens Axboe
2010-04-08 13:59 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-08 14:03 ` Jens Axboe
2010-04-08 14:03 ` Jeff Moyer
2010-04-08 14:06 ` Jens Axboe
2010-04-08 14:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-08 14:25 ` Jeff Moyer
2010-04-08 14:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-08 19:10 ` Jeff Moyer
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