From: Chao Yu <chao2.yu@samsung.com>
To: 'He YunLei' <heyunlei@huawei.com>
Cc: 'Jaegeuk Kim' <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Data lost in Android app for not write new checkpoint
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 18:17:37 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <012201d0d031$3baddf90$b3099eb0$@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55C0BB25.1070208@huawei.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: He YunLei [mailto:heyunlei@huawei.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:16 PM
> To: Chao Yu
> Cc: 'Bintian'; 'Jaegeuk Kim'; cm224.lee@samsung.com; linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] Data lost in Android app for not write new checkpoint
>
> On 2015/7/31 18:49, Chao Yu wrote:
> > Hi Bintian,
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: He YunLei [mailto:heyunlei@huawei.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 10:29 AM
> >> To: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Jaegeuk Kim
> >> Cc: Chao Yu; cm224.lee@samsung.com; Bintian
> >> Subject: [f2fs-dev] Data lost in Android app for not write new checkpoint
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> Recently I did some test with f2fs on my Android phone, and found a problem
> >> which I didn't know how to tackle it.
> >> I use my Android phone with /data partition formatted by mkfs.f2fs. When the
> >> phone just started, I check the f2fs status by reading the file /sys/kernel/debug/f2fs/status
> >> in debugfs.
> >>
> >> CP calls: 10
> >> GC calls: 19 (BG: 19)
> >> - data segments : 19 (19)
> >> - node segments : 0 (0)
> >>
> >> We can see /data partition has done 10 times write_checkpoint since f2fs is mounted
> >> on the phone, it also has triggered 19 times background GC.
> >>
> >> ******
> >>
> >> Here I took some photos consecutively, and check the file /sys/kernel/debug/f2fs/status again
> >>
> >> ******
> >>
> >> CP calls: 10
> >> GC calls: 20 (BG: 20)
> >> - data segments : 20 (20)
> >> - node segments : 0 (0)
> >>
> >> there is no change in CP calls number and background GC doesn't write new checkpoint.
> >> if then a sudden power failure or system crash occur, the photos will be lost when the phone
> >> restart, and a sync before crash will avoid the data lost.
> >> I think this problem is bad for user experience of using Android phone with f2fs.
> >> How do we deal with such situation? I wish you and other developers in this list could help
> >> me in a correct way.
> >
> > IMO, it's better to figure out whether this is a bug of f2fs first or not.
> >
> > You can enable some traces in f2fs to see whether fsync is called or not.
> >
> > enable trace by:
> > echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/f2fs/f2fs_sync_file_enter/enable
> > echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/f2fs/f2fs_sync_file_exit/enable
> > print trace by:
> > cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace
> >
> > If fsync is not be called, I think in ext4 there must be the same problem,
> > but I guess fortunately journal commit thread save its data since it commit
> > transaction per 5 second by default. You can try to configure (commit=nrsec)
> > it with larger value for verification the issue with ext4 filesystem.
> >
>
> I enable the event xxx_sync_file_enter both in f2fs and ext4, and find neither of
> them was triggered by photo files.
>
> Then I try f2fs_writepages and ext4_da_write_pages:
>
> ino file_name
>
> 65573 IMG_20150804_031619.jpg
> 65575 IMG_20150804_031619_1.jpg
> 65576 IMG_20150804_031620.jpg
> 65577 IMG_20150804_031620_1.jpg
>
> ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65573 b_blocknr 0 b_size 0 b_state 0x0000 first_page 0
> io_done 0 pages_written 0 sync_mode 0
> ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65575 b_blocknr 0 b_size 2408448 b_state 0x0221 first_page
> 0 io_done 1 pages_written 588 sync_mode 0
> ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65575 b_blocknr 0 b_size 0 b_state 0x0000 first_page 0
> io_done 0 pages_written 0 sync_mode 0
> ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65576 b_blocknr 0 b_size 2428928 b_state 0x0221 first_page
> 0 io_done 1 pages_written 593 sync_mode 0
> ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65576 b_blocknr 0 b_size 0 b_state 0x0000 first_page 0
> io_done 0 pages_written 0 sync_mode 0
> ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65577 b_blocknr 0 b_size 2383872 b_state 0x0221 first_page
> 0 io_done 1 pages_written 582 sync_mode 0
> ext4_da_write_pages: dev 259,0 ino 65577 b_blocknr 0 b_size 0 b_state 0x0000 first_page 0
> io_done 0 pages_written 0 sync_mode 0
>
> f2fs_writepages doesn't appear in the test of f2fs
Weird, was IO triggered from DIO/reclaim path? As Jaegeuk said, it's better
to check the IOs in block layer.
>
> I also try modify commit=300(default 5), but it doesn't work. Maybe somewhere else in ext4
> launch the ext4_da_write_pages operation.
Maybe it's triggered by bdi flusher, can you try to configure parameters
under /proc/sys/vm/ e.g. dirty_writeback_centisecs/dirty_background_ratio
for delaying ->writepages in ext4?
>
> At the end, I try to mount f2fs with disable_roll_forward, when system reboot, the f2fs is
> inconsistent,
> there are several failed check items in fsck.
Can you share the log?
Thanks,
>
> Thanks,
> He
>
> > As a quick thought, maybe we can add one commit data thread, periodically
> > writebacking user data written by user previously, then do checkpoint for
> > persistence.
> >
> > So by this way, at most, we just lose our data for last configured time of
> > commit period.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> He
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-06 10:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-31 2:28 Data lost in Android app for not write new checkpoint He YunLei
2015-07-31 6:18 ` Chao Yu
2015-07-31 10:49 ` Chao Yu
2015-07-31 12:00 ` Bintian
2015-08-04 13:16 ` He YunLei
2015-08-04 18:29 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2015-08-06 10:17 ` Chao Yu [this message]
2015-08-07 6:26 ` He YunLei
2015-08-07 9:18 ` Chao Yu
2015-08-07 9:50 ` Chao Yu
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