From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: Alexander Gordeev <alex@gordick.net>
Cc: Chao Yu <chao@kernel.org>,
"linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: video archive on a microSD card
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:12:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160823211222.GD73835@jaegeuk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <324581471899132@web4j.yandex.ru>
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:52:12PM +0300, Alexander Gordeev wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I ran the test over weekend and I think I have some interesting results.
> I used 1 new SD card in one device and two fully utilized SD cards,
> that have problems with write latency, on two oter devices.
> I mounted all the cards with mode=lfs. The new SD card got utilized at 95% after some time.
> Here is the current status after the archive is rotated for some time:
>
> =====[ partition info(sda1). #0, RW]=====
> [SB: 1] [CP: 2] [SIT: 2] [NAT: 68] [SSA: 30] [MAIN: 15112(OverProv:803 Resv:50)]
>
> Utilization: 94% (6929763 valid blocks)
> - Node: 8113 (Inode: 1255, Other: 6858)
> - Data: 6921650
> - Inline_xattr Inode: 0
> - Inline_data Inode: 1
> - Inline_dentry Inode: 0
> - Orphan Inode: 0
>
> Main area: 15112 segs, 7556 secs 7556 zones
> - COLD data: 5306, 2653, 2653
> - WARM data: 5233, 2616, 2616
> - HOT data: 15100, 7550, 7550
> - Dir dnode: 15097, 7548, 7548
> - File dnode: 4701, 2350, 2350
> - Indir nodes: 15105, 7552, 7552
>
> - Valid: 97
> - Dirty: 13798
> - Prefree: 0
> - Free: 1217 (604)
>
> CP calls: 282 (BG: 0)
> GC calls: 0 (BG: 0)
> - data segments : 0 (0)
> - node segments : 0 (0)
> Try to move 0 blocks (BG: 0)
> - data blocks : 0 (0)
> - node blocks : 0 (0)
>
> Extent Cache:
> - Hit Count: L1-1:3084 L1-2:456 L2:0
> - Hit Ratio: 4% (3540 / 84026)
> - Inner Struct Count: tree: 1252(0), node: 0
>
> Balancing F2FS Async:
> - inmem: 0, wb_bios: 0
> - nodes: 12 in 30
> - dents: 3 in dirs: 2 ( 2)
> - datas: 48 in files: 0
> - meta: 9 in 34
> - NATs: 10/ 249
> - SITs: 13/ 15112
> - free_nids: 1797
>
> Distribution of User Blocks: [ valid | invalid | free ]
> [-----------------------------------------------|--|-]
>
> IPU: 0 blocks
> SSR: 0 blocks in 0 segments
> LFS: 912188 blocks in 1781 segments
>
> BDF: 94, avg. vblocks: 996
>
> Memory: 3604 KB
> - static: 3270 KB
> - cached: 78 KB
> - paged : 256 KB
>
>
> The interesting thing here is the very small number of valid and
> a huge number of dirty sections. I don't understand this at all.
This is the number of dirty segments, so it needs to consider section and
segment at the same time; a dirty section can consist of valid and free
segments.
How abouting testing 2MB-sized section which is the default option?
> Still the archive is working perfectly. Also I see, that there GC is never
> called, which is probably an indication of FS working exactly as
> we expected.
> Also the small number of cold sections does not make problems.
> So, well, it works perfect so fat. But I don't understand everything here.
> Is this expected?
So, I'm in doubt that dirty sections consist of entirely valid or free segments.
>
> The other two SD cards were tested differently. On one of them I called
> ioctl(F2FS_IOC_GARBAGE_COLLECT) for several hours. And indeed the number
> of dirty sectoins dropped considerably. It works fine so far.
It makes sense that valid segments in dirty sections would be migrated to
different free sections.
> On the other SD card I called ioctl(F2FS_IOC_DEFRAGMENT) for every
> file in the archive. It works fine as well now. But the number of dirty sections
> was still very high at the end of defragmentation. I don't understand this
> as well.
This is for defragementation to the given file, which would not move blocks in
order to decrease the number of dirty sections.
I think it's not necessary for this workload.
Thanks,
>
> Thanks!
>
> 19.08.2016, 14:56, "Alexander Gordeev" <alex@gordick.net>:
> > Hi Jaegeuk,
> >
> > 19.08.2016, 05:41, "Jaegeuk Kim" <jaegeuk@kernel.org>:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 02:04:55PM +0300, Alexander Gordeev wrote:
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> >>>>>>> Here is also /sys/kernel/debug/f2fs/status for reference:
> >>> >>>>>>> =====[ partition info(sda). #0 ]=====
> >>> >>>>>>> [SB: 1] [CP: 2] [SIT: 4] [NAT: 118] [SSA: 60] [MAIN: 29646(OverProv:1529
> >>> >>>>>>> Resv:50)]
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Utilization: 94% (13597314 valid blocks)
> >>> >>>>>>> - Node: 16395 (Inode: 2913, Other: 13482)
> >>> >>>>>>> - Data: 13580919
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Main area: 29646 segs, 14823 secs 14823 zones
> >>> >>>>>>> - COLD data: 3468, 1734, 1734
> >>> >>>>>>> - WARM data: 12954, 6477, 6477
> >>> >>>>>>> - HOT data: 28105, 14052, 14052
> >>> >>>>>>> - Dir dnode: 29204, 14602, 14602
> >>> >>>>>>> - File dnode: 19960, 9980, 9980
> >>> >>>>>>> - Indir nodes: 29623, 14811, 14811
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> - Valid: 13615
> >>> >>>>>>> - Dirty: 13309
> >>> >>>>>>> - Prefree: 0
> >>> >>>>>>> - Free: 2722 (763)
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> GC calls: 8622 (BG: 4311)
> >>> >>>>>>> - data segments : 8560
> >>> >>>>>>> - node segments : 62
> >>> >>>>>>> Try to move 3552161 blocks
> >>> >>>>>>> - data blocks : 3540278
> >>> >>>>>>> - node blocks : 11883
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Extent Hit Ratio: 49 / 4171
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Balancing F2FS Async:
> >>> >>>>>>> - nodes 6 in 141
> >>> >>>>>>> - dents 0 in dirs: 0
> >>> >>>>>>> - meta 13 in 346
> >>> >>>>>>> - NATs 16983 > 29120
> >>> >>>>>>> - SITs: 17
> >>> >>>>>>> - free_nids: 1861
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Distribution of User Blocks: [ valid | invalid | free ]
> >>> >>>>>>> [-----------------------------------------------|-|--]
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> SSR: 1230719 blocks in 14834 segments
> >>> >>>>>>> LFS: 15150190 blocks in 29589 segments
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> BDF: 89, avg. vblocks: 949
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Memory: 6754 KB = static: 4763 + cached: 1990
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> >> Per my understanding of f2fs internals, it should write these "cold" files and
> >>> >> usual "hot" files to different sections (that should map internally to
> >>> >> different allocation units). So the sections used by "cold" data should almost
> >>> >> never get "dirty" because most of the time all their blocks become free at
> >>> >> the same time. Of course, the files are not exactly 4MB in size so the last
> >>> >> section of the deleted file will become dirty. If it is moved by garbage
> >>> >> collector and becomes mixed with fresh "cold" data, then indeed it might cause
> >>> >> some problems, I think. What is your opinion?
> >>> >
> >>> > If your fs is not fragmented, it may be as what you said, otherwise, SSR will
> >>> > still try to reuse invalid block of other temperture segments, then your cold
> >>> > data will be fixed with warm data too.
> >>> >
> >>> > I guess, what you are facing is the latter one:
> >>> > SSR: 1230719 blocks in 14834 segments
> >>>
> >>> I guess, I need to somehow disable any cleaning or SSR for my archive and index
> >>> files. But keep the cleaning for other data and nodes.
> >>
> >> Could you test a mount option, "mode=lfs", to disable SSR?
> >> (I guess sqlite may suffer from logner latency due to GC though.)
> >>
> >> Seems like it's caused by SSR starting to make worse before 95% as you described
> >> below.
> >
> > Thanks, I'll run a test with a couple of SD cards over weekend.
> > So if I understand it correctly, GC will not cause the problems described below, right?
> > I.e. it will not mix the new data with old data from dirty sections?
> > Longer SQLite latencies should not be a problem because the database is written not
> > frequently and also it is about 200-250KB in size usually. Maybe forcing IPU as
> > suggested by Chao would help sqlite, no?
> > However looks like setting ipu_policy to 1 has no effect when mode=lfs.
> > The IPU counter is still zero on my test system.
> > ...
> --
> Alexander
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-12 11:52 video archive on a microSD card Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-15 10:47 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-15 11:41 ` Chao Yu
2016-08-15 12:22 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-16 15:29 ` Chao Yu
2016-08-17 9:47 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-17 15:54 ` Chao Yu
2016-08-18 11:04 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-19 2:41 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-08-19 11:56 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-22 20:52 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-23 21:12 ` Jaegeuk Kim [this message]
2016-08-25 20:14 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-27 1:20 ` Jaegeuk Kim
[not found] ` <549571472473386@web20g.yandex.ru>
2016-08-29 18:23 ` Jaegeuk Kim
[not found] ` <9581472749471@web24h.yandex.ru>
2016-09-01 20:07 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-09-02 12:15 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-23 20:27 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-08-19 17:22 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-23 21:27 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-08-25 20:22 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-26 16:04 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-27 1:15 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-08-27 13:00 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-29 16:50 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-29 18:00 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-08-31 8:52 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-08-31 23:46 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-09-01 17:40 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-09-01 18:25 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-09-01 19:37 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-09-01 20:15 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-09-02 12:05 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-09-02 18:50 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-08-15 12:57 ` [PATCH] f2fs: fix build for v3.10 Alexander Gordeev
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