From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Victor Hsieh <victorhsieh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v4 14/16] ext4: add basic fs-verity support
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 10:51:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190618175117.GF184520@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190615153112.GO6142@mit.edu>
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:31:12AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 08:52:03AM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * Format of ext4 verity xattr. This points to the location of the verity
> > + * descriptor within the file data rather than containing it directly because
> > + * the verity descriptor *must* be encrypted when ext4 encryption is used. But,
> > + * ext4 encryption does not encrypt xattrs.
> > + */
> > +struct fsverity_descriptor_location {
> > + __le32 version;
> > + __le32 size;
> > + __le64 pos;
> > +};
>
> What's the benefit of storing the location in an xattr as opposed to
> just keying it off the end of i_size, rounded up to next page size (or
> 64k) as I had suggested earlier?
>
> Using an xattr burns xattr space, which is a limited resource, and it
> adds some additional code complexity. Does the benefits outweigh the
> added complexity?
>
> - Ted
It means that only the fs/verity/ support layer has to be aware of the format of
the fsverity_descriptor, and the filesystem can just treat it an as opaque blob.
Otherwise the filesystem would need to read the first 'sizeof(struct
fsverity_descriptor)' bytes and use those to calculate the size as
'sizeof(struct fsverity_descriptor) + le32_to_cpu(desc.sig_size)', then read the
rest. Is this what you have in mind?
Alternatively the filesystem could prepend the fsverity_descriptor with its
size, similar to how in the v1 and v2 patchsets there was an fsverity_footer
appended to the fsverity_descriptor. But an xattr seems a cleaner approach to
store a few bytes that don't need to be encrypted.
Putting the verity descriptor before the Merkle tree also means that we'd have
to pass the desc_size to ->begin_enable_verity(), ->read_merkle_tree_page(), and
->write_merkle_tree_block(), versus just passing the merkle_tree_size to
->end_enable_verity(). This would be easy, but it would still add a bit of
complexity in the fsverity_operations rather than reduce it.
It's also somewhat nice to have the version number in the xattr, in case we ever
introduce a new fs-verity format for ext4 or f2fs.
So to me, it doesn't seem like the other possible solutions are better.
- Eric
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-06 15:51 [PATCH v4 00/16] fs-verity: read-only file-based authenticity protection Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] fs-verity: add a documentation file Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 12:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 12:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-18 16:31 ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] fs-verity: add MAINTAINERS file entry Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 12:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 12:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] fs-verity: add UAPI header Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] fs: uapi: define verity bit for FS_IOC_GETFLAGS Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 12:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 12:40 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] fs-verity: add Kconfig and the helper functions for hashing Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 12:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 12:57 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-18 16:32 ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] fs-verity: add inode and superblock fields Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 12:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 12:57 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] fs-verity: add the hook for file ->open() Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 14:42 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 14:42 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-18 16:35 ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] fs-verity: add the hook for file ->setattr() Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 14:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 14:43 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] fs-verity: add data verification hooks for ->readpages() Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 14:48 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 14:48 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] fs-verity: implement FS_IOC_ENABLE_VERITY ioctl Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 15:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 15:08 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-18 16:50 ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] fs-verity: implement FS_IOC_MEASURE_VERITY ioctl Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 15:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 15:10 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] fs-verity: add SHA-512 support Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 15:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 15:11 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] fs-verity: support builtin file signatures Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 15:21 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 15:21 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-18 16:58 ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] ext4: add basic fs-verity support Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-15 15:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-15 15:31 ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-18 17:51 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2019-06-18 22:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-18 23:41 ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-19 3:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-19 19:13 ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] ext4: add fs-verity read support Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] f2fs: add fs-verity support Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 15:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 17:21 ` [PATCH v4 00/16] fs-verity: read-only file-based authenticity protection Linus Torvalds
2019-06-06 17:21 ` [f2fs-dev] " Linus Torvalds
2019-06-06 19:43 ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-06 19:43 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
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