From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.sourceforge.net (lists.sourceforge.net [216.105.38.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B30BEB64DC for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2023 01:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=sfs-ml-3.v29.lw.sourceforge.com) by sfs-ml-3.v29.lw.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1qJOjt-0004ZR-Fc; Wed, 12 Jul 2023 01:33:57 +0000 Received: from [172.30.20.202] (helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.lw.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1qJOjr-0004ZI-Vf for linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 12 Jul 2023 01:33:55 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceforge.net; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: From:References:Cc:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hjcVNlm1QHPLHd3o5VX5SMRDQLPooaBXWy9axao0xME=; b=jRnDSbCsIwoC7RV6wKNOmaitpb w43op4uTj2GW6UdPb1ncNpUakEaRaN2u7IQV93GfqrEvEhPWVdpDmM0CUt831VgD0abWz5hCSxQbE I8F7qYhuqrQ8aMY6vi6qW6nRlP9juetKfcmAnhI1qLZ9Dj0METQIOkEo1iIjcOwe4pZg=; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sf.net; s=x ; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From:References:Cc:To: Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hjcVNlm1QHPLHd3o5VX5SMRDQLPooaBXWy9axao0xME=; b=lGu1CryJ6NcPi97cLUNilfyH/P tHpnFVPejnKVtm7NtQhKLlmiNE7tWH1pcP/6f21D47JTHkHZZsCo3qFQZw7FGUvxnbILL3JdlkrT1 5MIdC8gz16KZJXDpEjaP1TYJa8OvjtolvT+0QEHmKa+EGEvNsmZPDFKqtPwI6XJLyloQ=; Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org ([139.178.84.217]) by sfi-mx-2.v28.lw.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.95) id 1qJOjt-0001JT-8Z for linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 12 Jul 2023 01:33:55 +0000 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD783615AC; Wed, 12 Jul 2023 01:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25D65C433C8; Wed, 12 Jul 2023 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1689125629; bh=2S6wbnljUFNSm7ROG4giIHQvf1V+Wm4CNR7UiKL6Wp8=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=NkniyM1QqJrEVjZXIwSmV55WRRuUt+bvS7kEncVAPpwPW3SmCif/MhisyuH0NcuaV MFk1ijI4+Nzz8Kx321MHmncS/OGlQl1yDyTjmOZpnzE1GTt98HxwLJH99Ak6t9LNI+ PS0wXGoSpb0ipsboJbPSSJuozLmnJGpYNLkka44Oc33dwlC+LYcyc10chHkDiPuik0 KVWdEnM3HArRbQmo0F/w+bk74ic/EaW1+SE6qgzp3CdKHcaamsnNi+X4Lkm9iMyV/l GjwYQBgfwpohywDMtmjSp0fPkGC8lnpH5HucQV3zJPL9wxVx/aZMWMXvqpcPtHVj8M m7eSwACqOZj6A== Message-ID: <330c96f7-fbad-dd17-6368-f1378b3b5375@kernel.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 09:33:45 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Jaegeuk Kim References: <20230613203947.2745943-1-jaegeuk@kernel.org> <50d5fa8c-4fe9-8a03-be78-0b5383e55b62@kernel.org> <65143701-4c19-ab66-1500-abd1162639cd@kernel.org> From: Chao Yu In-Reply-To: X-Headers-End: 1qJOjt-0001JT-8Z Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v2] f2fs: do not issue small discard commands during checkpoint X-BeenThere: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: linux-f2fs-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net On 2023/7/12 0:37, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > On 07/06, Chao Yu wrote: >> On 2023/7/6 1:30, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: >>> On 07/04, Chao Yu wrote: >>>> On 2023/7/4 18:53, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: >>>>> On 07/03, Chao Yu wrote: >>>>>> On 2023/6/15 0:10, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: >>>>>>> If there're huge # of small discards, this will increase checkpoint latency >>>>>>> insanely. Let's issue small discards only by trim. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jaegeuk Kim >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change log from v1: >>>>>>> - move the skip logic to avoid dangling objects >>>>>>> >>>>>>> fs/f2fs/segment.c | 2 +- >>>>>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/segment.c b/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>>> index 8c7af8b4fc47..0457d620011f 100644 >>>>>>> --- a/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>>> +++ b/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>>> @@ -2193,7 +2193,7 @@ void f2fs_clear_prefree_segments(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi, >>>>>>> len = next_pos - cur_pos; >>>>>>> if (f2fs_sb_has_blkzoned(sbi) || >>>>>>> - (force && len < cpc->trim_minlen)) >>>>>>> + !force || len < cpc->trim_minlen) >>>>>>> goto skip; >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry for late reply. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have a configuration for such case, what do you think of setting >>>>>> max_small_discards to zero? otherwise, w/ above change, max_small_discards >>>>>> logic may be broken? >>>>>> >>>>>> What: /sys/fs/f2fs//max_small_discards >>>>>> Date: November 2013 >>>>>> Contact: "Jaegeuk Kim" >>>>>> Description: Controls the issue rate of discard commands that consist of small >>>>>> blocks less than 2MB. The candidates to be discarded are cached until >>>>>> checkpoint is triggered, and issued during the checkpoint. >>>>>> By default, it is disabled with 0. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or, if we prefer to disable small_discards by default, what about below change: >>>>> >>>>> I think small_discards is fine, but need to avoid long checkpoint latency only. >>>> >>>> I didn't get you, do you mean we can still issue small discard by >>>> fstrim, so small_discards functionality is fine? >>> >>> You got the point. >> >> Well, actually, what I mean is max_small_discards sysfs entry's functionality >> is broken. Now, the entry can not be used to control number of small discards >> committed by checkpoint. > > Could you descrbie this problem first? Oh, alright, actually, I've described this problem literally, but maybe it's not clear, let me give some examples as below: echo 0 > /sys/fs/f2fs/vdb/max_small_discards xfs_io -f /mnt/f2fs/file -c "pwrite 0 2m" -c "fsync" xfs_io /mnt/f2fs/file -c "fpunch 0 4k" sync cat /proc/fs/f2fs/vdb/discard_plist_info |head -2 echo 100 > /sys/fs/f2fs/vdb/max_small_discards rm /mnt/f2fs/file xfs_io -f /mnt/f2fs/file -c "pwrite 0 2m" -c "fsync" xfs_io /mnt/f2fs/file -c "fpunch 0 4k" sync cat /proc/fs/f2fs/vdb/discard_plist_info |head -2 Before the patch: Discard pend list(Show diacrd_cmd count on each entry, .:not exist): 0 . . . . . . . . Discard pend list(Show diacrd_cmd count on each entry, .:not exist): 0 3 1 . . . . . . After the patch: Discard pend list(Show diacrd_cmd count on each entry, .:not exist): 0 . . . . . . . . Discard pend list(Show diacrd_cmd count on each entry, .:not exist): 0 . . . . . . . . So, now max_small_discards can not be used to control small discard number cached by checkpoint. Thanks, > >> >> I think there is another way to achieve "avoid long checkpoint latency caused >> by committing huge # of small discards", the way is we can set max_small_discards >> to small value or zero, w/ such configuration, it will take checkpoint much less >> time or no time to committing small discard due to below control logic: >> >> f2fs_flush_sit_entries() >> { >> ... >> if (!(cpc->reason & CP_DISCARD)) { >> cpc->trim_start = segno; >> add_discard_addrs(sbi, cpc, false); >> } >> ... >> } >> >> add_discard_addrs() >> { >> ... >> while (force || SM_I(sbi)->dcc_info->nr_discards <= >> SM_I(sbi)->dcc_info->max_discards) { >> >> It will break the loop once nr_discards is larger than max_discards, if >> max_discards is set to zero, checkpoint won't take time to handle small discards. >> >> ... >> if (!de) { >> de = f2fs_kmem_cache_alloc(discard_entry_slab, >> GFP_F2FS_ZERO, true, NULL); >> de->start_blkaddr = START_BLOCK(sbi, cpc->trim_start); >> list_add_tail(&de->list, head); >> } >> ... >> } >> ... >> >> Thanks, >> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From eb89d9b56e817e3046d7fa17165b12416f09d456 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 >>>>>> From: Chao Yu >>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 09:06:53 +0800 >>>>>> Subject: [PATCH] Revert "f2fs: enable small discard by default" >>>>>> >>>>>> This reverts commit d618ebaf0aa83d175658aea5291e0c459d471d39 in order >>>>>> to disable small discard by default, so that if there're huge number of >>>>>> small discards, it will decrease checkpoint's latency obviously. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, this patch reverts 9ac00e7cef10 ("f2fs: do not issue small discard >>>>>> commands during checkpoint"), due to it breaks small discard feature which >>>>>> may be configured via sysfs entry max_small_discards. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fixes: 9ac00e7cef10 ("f2fs: do not issue small discard commands during checkpoint") >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Chao Yu >>>>>> --- >>>>>> fs/f2fs/segment.c | 4 ++-- >>>>>> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>>>>> >>>>>> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/segment.c b/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>> index 14c822e5c9c9..0a313368f18b 100644 >>>>>> --- a/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>> +++ b/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>> @@ -2193,7 +2193,7 @@ void f2fs_clear_prefree_segments(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi, >>>>>> len = next_pos - cur_pos; >>>>>> >>>>>> if (f2fs_sb_has_blkzoned(sbi) || >>>>>> - !force || len < cpc->trim_minlen) >>>>>> + (force && len < cpc->trim_minlen)) >>>>>> goto skip; >>>>>> >>>>>> f2fs_issue_discard(sbi, entry->start_blkaddr + cur_pos, >>>>>> @@ -2269,7 +2269,7 @@ static int create_discard_cmd_control(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi) >>>>>> atomic_set(&dcc->queued_discard, 0); >>>>>> atomic_set(&dcc->discard_cmd_cnt, 0); >>>>>> dcc->nr_discards = 0; >>>>>> - dcc->max_discards = MAIN_SEGS(sbi) << sbi->log_blocks_per_seg; >>>>>> + dcc->max_discards = 0; >>>>>> dcc->max_discard_request = DEF_MAX_DISCARD_REQUEST; >>>>>> dcc->min_discard_issue_time = DEF_MIN_DISCARD_ISSUE_TIME; >>>>>> dcc->mid_discard_issue_time = DEF_MID_DISCARD_ISSUE_TIME; >>>>>> -- >>>>>> 2.40.1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> f2fs_issue_discard(sbi, entry->start_blkaddr + cur_pos, _______________________________________________ Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list Linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel