From: Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Jes Sorensen <jsorensen@meta.com>,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org,
Victor Hsieh <victorhsieh@google.com>,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH] fsverity: mark builtin signatures as deprecated
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:04:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMw=ZnQNJjKVAf9xafashv8diab2Xg92M1+wNT3A37RMBVwR2Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5zbNtaadNGPGHQb@sol.localdomain>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 20:55, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 09:37:29PM +0000, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> >
> > The second question is easy: because the kernel is the right place for
> > our use case to do this verification and enforcement, exactly like dm-
> > verity does.
>
> Well, dm-verity's in-kernel signature verification support is a fairly new
> feature. Most users of dm-verity don't use it, and will not be using it.
I'm not sure what you mean by "most users" - systemd has support for
dm-verity signatures all over the place, libcryptsetup/veritysetup
supports them, and even libmount has native first-class mount options
for them.
> > Userspace is largely untrusted, or much lower trust anyway.
>
> Yes, which means the kernel is highly trusted. Which is why parsing complex
> binary formats, X.509 and PKCS#7, in C code in the kernel is not a great idea...
Maybe, but it's there and it's used for multiple purposes and
userspace relies on it. If you want to add a new alternative and
optional formats I don't think it would be a problem, I certainly
wouldn't mind.
Kind regards,
Luca Boccassi
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2022-12-08 3:35 [f2fs-dev] [PATCH] fsverity: mark builtin signatures as deprecated Eric Biggers
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2022-12-08 20:55 ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-09 22:17 ` Fan Wu
2022-12-16 21:02 ` Eric Biggers
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2022-12-16 20:55 ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-17 2:04 ` Luca Boccassi [this message]
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