From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: Hans Holmberg <Hans.Holmberg@wdc.com>
Cc: Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [RFC PATCH] f2fs: preserve direct write semantics when buffering is forced
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 12:36:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZH45N4nsqxCnhnoU@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230605115638.GA23662@gsv>
On 06/05, Hans Holmberg wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 04:39:10PM -0700, hch@infradead.org wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 05:46:37PM -0700, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> > > > Yes, and that was exactly my point: with LFS mode, O_DIRECT write
> > > > should never overwrite anything. So I do not see why direct writes
> > > > should be handled as buffered writes with zoned devices. Am I missing
> > > > something here ?
> > >
> > > That's an easiest way to serialize block allocation and submit_bio when users
> > > are calling buffered writes and direct writes in parallel. :)
> > > I just felt that if we can manage both of them in direct write path along with
> > > buffered write path, we may be able to avoid memcpy.
> >
> > Yes. Note that right now f2fs doesn't really support proper O_DIRECT
> > for buffered I/O either, as non-overwrites require a feature similar
> > to unwritten extents, or a split of the allocation phase and the record
> > metdata phase. If we'd go for the second choice for f2fs, which is the
> > more elegant thing to do, you'll get the zoned direct I/O write support
> > almost for free.
>
> So, Jaegeuk, do you think suporting direct io proper is the way to do to fix this
> issue? That looks like a better solution to me (at least long term).
>
> Until that would be put into place, do you want my fix (with your code
> style fixes) rebased and resent?
Yes, it's already landed in 6.4-rc1 of Linus tree, and surely I have the topic
in my long term plan.
Thanks,
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-20 12:20 [f2fs-dev] [RFC PATCH] f2fs: preserve direct write semantics when buffering is forced Hans Holmberg via Linux-f2fs-devel
[not found] ` <CGME20230220123747epcas2p4c72ace14d10031df7aa116999ad5fe25@epcms2p8>
2023-02-22 11:08 ` Yonggil Song
2023-03-20 13:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-03-23 22:14 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-03-23 23:02 ` Damien Le Moal via Linux-f2fs-devel
2023-03-23 23:46 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-03-24 0:06 ` Damien Le Moal via Linux-f2fs-devel
2023-03-24 0:46 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-03-26 23:39 ` hch
2023-06-05 11:56 ` Hans Holmberg via Linux-f2fs-devel
2023-06-05 19:36 ` Jaegeuk Kim [this message]
2023-03-23 22:37 ` Jaegeuk Kim
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