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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 00/29] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to nfsd export support
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 01:52:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXCh55UplHkplhFe@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260120-entmilitarisieren-wanken-afd04b910897@brauner>

On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 10:04:02AM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > I actually think that what Christoph wants is actually quite different
> > from what Jeff wants, and maybe two flags are needed.  But I don't yet
> > have a clear understanding of what Christoph wants, so I cannot be sure.
> 
> I've tried to indirectly ask whether you would be willing to compromise
> here or whether you want to insist on your alternative name. Apparently
> that didn't come through.

Btw, I don't think the name is the primary problem, as we seem to
disagree even about the problem space.  The current patch series
from Jeff helps with the stable handle problem, which is an important
one, although maybe not the one you and Amir care about most.  I care
about it most, because the addition of unstable handles caused problems
and I really want that fixed before it spreads further, and I think
anything mentioning NFS in that is factually wrong.  If we need
additional flags to work around other issues (as in the list compiled
by Neil) I'd still prefer them to be named about what issues they
deal with, but folks get too tired of that I could probably with a
"NFSD get the f^&&& out" name if we'd just keep shouting at each
other otherwise.



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Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-15 17:47 [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 00/29] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to nfsd export support Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 01/29] exportfs: add new EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES flag Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-16 10:45   ` Jan Kara
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 02/29] tmpfs: add EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES flag to export operations Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-16 10:47   ` Jan Kara
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 03/29] ext4: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-16  2:22   ` Theodore Tso
2026-01-16 10:46   ` Jan Kara
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 04/29] ext2: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-16 10:46   ` Jan Kara
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 05/29] erofs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 06/29] efs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 07/29] xfs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 08/29] ceph: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 19:16   ` Viacheslav Dubeyko via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 09/29] btrfs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 10/29] befs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 11/29] ufs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 12/29] udf: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-16 10:47   ` Jan Kara
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 13/29] affs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 14/29] squashfs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 15/29] smb/client: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 19:26   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 16/29] ovl: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 18:21   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 17/29] orangefs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 18/29] ocfs2: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-16 10:47   ` Jan Kara
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 19/29] ntfs3: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 20/29] nilfs2: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-19  8:39   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 21/29] nfs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 22/29] jfs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 22:09   ` Dave Kleikamp via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 23/29] jffs2: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-18 15:36   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 24/29] isofs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-16 10:48   ` Jan Kara
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 25/29] gfs2: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 26/29] fuse: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 18:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 19:46     ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 27/29] fat: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 28/29] f2fs: " Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 17:48 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 29/29] nfsd: only allow filesystems that set EXPORT_OP_STABLE_HANDLES Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 19:23   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-16 12:36     ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-16 14:46       ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-16 15:13         ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 18:17 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 00/29] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to nfsd export support Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 18:29   ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-18 23:23     ` NeilBrown
2026-01-19  6:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-19  7:22         ` NeilBrown
2026-01-19  7:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-19  9:27           ` Christian Brauner via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-19 20:45             ` NeilBrown
2026-01-20  7:38               ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20  9:27                 ` NeilBrown
2026-01-20 10:34                   ` Christian Brauner via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-21  9:48                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-21 10:34                     ` NeilBrown
2026-01-21 14:27                       ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-21 14:47                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-21 15:18                           ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-22  6:37                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-22 12:12                               ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-22 17:04                                 ` Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-21 12:37                   ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-20  9:04               ` Christian Brauner via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-20  9:41                 ` NeilBrown
2026-01-20 10:31                   ` Christian Brauner via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-20 12:50                     ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-21  3:58                       ` NeilBrown
2026-01-21 11:56                         ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-21 18:59                           ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-21 10:00                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-21 10:01                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-21  9:58                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-21  9:52                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-01-19 12:30           ` Jeff Layton via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-21  4:10             ` NeilBrown
2026-01-15 18:31   ` Chuck Lever via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 19:14     ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 19:31       ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 19:37       ` Chuck Lever via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 19:47         ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 21:09         ` Dave Chinner via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 21:37           ` Chuck Lever via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-01-15 22:40             ` David Laight
2026-01-19  7:56           ` Christoph Hellwig

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