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From: Antonino Daplas <adaplas@pol.net>
To: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Thomas Winischhofer <thomas@winischhofer.net>,
	Linux Fbdev development list
	<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Some questions
Date: 12 Mar 2003 04:07:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1047407816.1013.182.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303111628240.23668-100000@phoenix.infradead.org>

On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 00:29, James Simmons wrote:
> 
> > So, I think fbcon should also detect if the previous console is not
> > fbcon (ie previous con > last_fbvc || previous con < first_fbvc), and if
> > it isn't, force an fb_set_par.
> 
> This whole idea of mapping a specific VC to a specific piece of hardware 
> is just plain dumb and overly complex. The new console system will 
> allocate a set of 16 console to each independent VT.
> 

Well, you have info->currcon, fg_console etc...  No mapping is done,
fbcon will just keep track of the tty's it's currently switched to (vt.c
does it, and so does fbcon_switch), and fbcon will just look if the vc
has a valid PID (which means a process installed its own vc) and
therefore not trust it to completely preserve the graphics state.

Note that X does something like this to protect itself.  When switch
from console to X, it refreshes its own registers.

I think you may need some support for this.  Several have already
reported that switching from X to a console results in a corrupted
display which can be cleared by doing an fbset. 

The choices are:

1. refresh the registers at every switch - slowest but guarantees
hardware state is always preserved 
 
2. do not refresh unless var changed - fasted but can result in
corruption/crash if registers were changed behind the back of fbdev

3. selective refresh - do not refresh if switching between "trusted"
consoles, refresh if switching from "untrusted" consoles.

4. Find a method to detect if the registers were changed behind the back
of fbdev.

Tony 



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  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-11 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-05 12:18 Some questions Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 13:26 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 14:06   ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 15:25     ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 15:37       ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 15:44         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 15:59           ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 16:06             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 16:34             ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 16:06         ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 16:17           ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 16:44             ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 17:01               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 19:25                 ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 19:27               ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 15:40       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 15:54         ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 19:31         ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 15:48       ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 19:43         ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 22:21           ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-06  0:18             ` James Simmons
2003-03-06  9:03               ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-06  1:18             ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06  1:18           ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06  8:49             ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-06  9:12               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-06  9:58                 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 10:14                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-06 10:30                     ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06  9:26               ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06  9:43                 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-06 10:05                   ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 10:31                     ` Sven Luther
2003-03-06 10:48                       ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 10:51                         ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 11:40                           ` Sven Luther
2003-03-06 13:25                             ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 15:25                             ` James Simmons
2003-03-06 15:27                       ` James Simmons
2003-03-07 12:08                         ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-07 12:21                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-07 18:19                             ` James Simmons
2003-03-07 14:01                           ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 15:19                             ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-07 16:19                               ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 17:00                                 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-07 17:42                                   ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 18:31                               ` James Simmons
2003-03-07 17:49                                 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-11 16:23                                   ` James Simmons
2003-03-07 20:12                               ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 20:51                                 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-08  0:58                                   ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-08  5:40                                     ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-08 14:11                                       ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-08 14:20                                       ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-08 22:03                                         ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-09  3:47                                           ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-09  6:18                                             ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 18:30                             ` James Simmons
2003-03-11 16:07             ` James Simmons
2003-03-11 21:03               ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 19:16       ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 19:30         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 19:34           ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 22:13             ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 23:53               ` James Simmons
2003-03-06  8:33             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-06  9:00               ` Sven Luther
2003-03-06  9:03               ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-11 16:29                 ` James Simmons
2003-03-11 20:07                   ` Antonino Daplas [this message]
2003-03-11 20:56                     ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-11 21:45                       ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-11 22:23                         ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-11 22:51                           ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-12  0:07                             ` Michel Dänzer
2003-03-12  1:02                               ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-12  1:29                                 ` Michel Dänzer
2003-03-12  8:24                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-12 15:56                                     ` Michel Dänzer
2003-03-11 22:27                         ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-11 22:51                           ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-11 23:12                             ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 14:12   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 14:18     ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 14:16   ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 15:25     ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 14:22   ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 19:02   ` James Simmons
2003-03-06  1:18     ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 18:57 ` James Simmons

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