Re: Framebuffer vt's second monitor ATI 9000

Re: Framebuffer vt's second monitor ATI 9000

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Javier Vizcaino wrote:
> I have an ISA/PCI/AGP PC. In the past the graphic cards it had were:
> -AGP 3dfx Voodoo3 as primary.
> -PCI Matrox Mystique as secondary.
> It also had (and has now) an ISA Hercules monochrome.
> With them I could have Xinerama on X with 3dfx and Matrox, and framebuffer
> based vt's on Matrox (module matroxfb_base) and Hercules (module hgafb).
> So the PC has three connected monitors. It multiboots in Windows 98SE,
> Windows 2000 and Linux.
>
> I changed the Matrox to install a board with USB2 and 1394 (I have no free
> slots; even I use at the time the ISA and PCI slots which are close, having
> modified a 3Com net card to permit using both close connectors).
>
> For doing multihead I installed an AGP board with an ATI 9000 chip having an VGA
> and a DVI connector, so using an adaptor I can attach two monitors. I keep the
> ISA Hercules monochrome, with its monochrome monitor.
>
> All works as before (see P.D.) with the Matrox except the vt's on the ATI second
> connector. I suppose that the module to use is 'radeonfb.o', but I'm not sure at
> all. With "modprobe radeonfb":
> /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom/kernel/drivers/video/radeonfb.o: init_module: No such device
> modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom/kernel/drivers/video/radeonfb.o failed
> modprobe: insmod radeonfb failed

This looks like your Radeon is too new for radeonfb.

> and an indication of invalid IO or IRQ.
>
> "modinfo -p radeonfb" gives nothing.
>
> Questions:
> -Is it possible to have framebuffer based vt's on the second connector of the ATI board?
> -How should I proceed (modules, options, etc)?

I don't think radeonfb does real multi-head yet.

> I use Mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21-0.13. I have also a laptop with a similar ATI chip,
> in which multihead also works similarily, but "modprobe radeonfb" gives the same error.
>
> TIA, Javier Vizcaino, Madrid, Spain.
>
> P.D. What works as before is:
> -Windows 98SE: the two monitors on the AGP board and the ISA Hercules.
> -Windows 2000: the two monitors on the AGP board.
> -Linux: xinerama X, but no vt's on second AGP connector.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: Framebuffer vt's second monitor ATI 9000

[Javier Vizcaino]

Hi. Thanks for your answer.
Check below after a couple of ****.

----- Mensaje original ----- 
De: "Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Para: "Javier Vizcaino" <javizca@mi.madritel.es>
CC: "Linux Frame Buffer Device Development" <linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Enviado: viernes, 19 de diciembre de 2003 12:14
Asunto: Re: Framebuffer vt's second monitor ATI 9000


: On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Javier Vizcaino wrote:
: > I have an ISA/PCI/AGP PC. In the past the graphic cards it had were:
: > -AGP 3dfx Voodoo3 as primary.
: > -PCI Matrox Mystique as secondary.
: > It also had (and has now) an ISA Hercules monochrome.
: > With them I could have Xinerama on X with 3dfx and Matrox, and framebuffer
: > based vt's on Matrox (module matroxfb_base) and Hercules (module hgafb).
: > So the PC has three connected monitors. It multiboots in Windows 98SE,
: > Windows 2000 and Linux.
: >
: > I changed the Matrox to install a board with USB2 and 1394 (I have no free
: > slots; even I use at the time the ISA and PCI slots which are close, having
: > modified a 3Com net card to permit using both close connectors).
: >
: > For doing multihead I installed an AGP board with an ATI 9000 chip having an VGA
: > and a DVI connector, so using an adaptor I can attach two monitors. I keep the
: > ISA Hercules monochrome, with its monochrome monitor.
: >
: > All works as before (see P.D.) with the Matrox except the vt's on the ATI second
: > connector. I suppose that the module to use is 'radeonfb.o', but I'm not sure at
: > all. With "modprobe radeonfb":
: > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom/kernel/drivers/video/radeonfb.o: init_module: No such device
: > modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom/kernel/drivers/video/radeonfb.o failed
: > modprobe: insmod radeonfb failed
: 
: This looks like your Radeon is too new for radeonfb.

**** The chip is shown as Radeon 9000 Pro (lf) Rev 1 by DirectX 9.0, so it doesn't semm
to be very new.

: 
: > and an indication of invalid IO or IRQ.
: >
: > "modinfo -p radeonfb" gives nothing.
: >
: > Questions:
: > -Is it possible to have framebuffer based vt's on the second connector of the ATI board?
: > -How should I proceed (modules, options, etc)?
: 
: I don't think radeonfb does real multi-head yet.

**** If you ever find some info about this, or if it is other the module for it,
please let me know.

: 
: > I use Mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21-0.13. I have also a laptop with a similar ATI chip,
: > in which multihead also works similarily, but "modprobe radeonfb" gives the same error.
: >
: > TIA, Javier Vizcaino, Madrid, Spain.
: >
: > P.D. What works as before is:
: > -Windows 98SE: the two monitors on the AGP board and the ISA Hercules.
: > -Windows 2000: the two monitors on the AGP board.
: > -Linux: xinerama X, but no vt's on second AGP connector.
: 
: Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
: 
: Geert
: 
: --
: Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
: 
: In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
: when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
:     -- Linus Torvalds


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Re: Re: Framebuffer vt's second monitor ATI 9000

[Benjamin Herrenschmidt]

On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 08:14, Kronos wrote:
> Il Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 12:52:36PM +0100, Javier Vizcaino ha scritto: 
> > : > Questions:
> > : > -Is it possible to have framebuffer based vt's on the second connector of the ATI board?
> > : > -How should I proceed (modules, options, etc)?
> > : 
> > : I don't think radeonfb does real multi-head yet.
> > 
> > **** If you ever find some info about this, or if it is other the module for it,
> > please let me know.
> 
> Ben Herrenschmidt is working on a new version of the driver (see
> bk://ppc.bkbits.net/linuxppc-2.5-benh). Multihead support is not there
> yet, but it's in the TODO list. 

Definitely. I'm not yet sure how I'll deal with some issues related
to multihead, like enabling/disabling mirroring, telling XFree (when
using UseFBDev) which /dev/fbs are multiple heads of the same card,
etc... All that is basically lacking in the fbdev API at this point.

I'm also a bit swamped with work lately so I had to put my radeonfb
work on hold for a while. Of course, any help on that is welcome ;)

Ben.




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Re: Re: Framebuffer vt's second monitor ATI9000-> photos

[Javier Vizcaino]

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Hi. Please see on attached images (sorry for the length):

On "fbvtati9000.jpg":
This is the PC with AGP ATI9000 (two monitor connectors) and ISA monochrome mda.
At the left is an vt on tty2. It is at the main connector of the ATI9000.
At the center is a monitor connected to the second connector of the ATI9000
(BTW, it is DVI). No vt there. HERE IS THE MISSING CAPABILITY.
At the right is an vt on tty10 (Alt+F10). It is a monochrome monitor connected
to an ISA Hercules compatible mda, using module 'hgafb'.
Characters appearing are those of the "euro" and the "euro cent", although
as seen 'linux_logo' is not too friendly to the mda module 'hgafb'.


On "fbvtmatrox.jpg":
This is an old PC with ATI128 and Matrox Mystique PCI boards. It has also an
ISA Hercules compatible mda, but I have no room for a monitor.
At the left is an vt on tty2. It is at the ATI128.
At the right is an vt on tty8 (Alt+F8). It is at the Mystique using module
'matroxfb_base'.
As before, characters appearing are those of the "euro" and the "euro cent".

Merry Christmas.


----- Mensaje original ----- 
Enviado: sábado, 20 de diciembre de 2003 7:53
Asunto: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: Framebuffer vt's second monitor ATI9000


: On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 08:14, Kronos wrote:
: > Il Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 12:52:36PM +0100, Javier Vizcaino ha scritto: 
: > > : > Questions:
: > > : > -Is it possible to have framebuffer based vt's on the second connector of the ATI board?
: > > : > -How should I proceed (modules, options, etc)?
: > > : 
: > > : I don't think radeonfb does real multi-head yet.
: > > 
: > > **** If you ever find some info about this, or if it is other the module for it,
: > > please let me know.
: > 
: > Ben Herrenschmidt is working on a new version of the driver (see
: > bk://ppc.bkbits.net/linuxppc-2.5-benh). Multihead support is not there
: > yet, but it's in the TODO list. 
: 
: Definitely. I'm not yet sure how I'll deal with some issues related
: to multihead, like enabling/disabling mirroring, telling XFree (when
: using UseFBDev) which /dev/fbs are multiple heads of the same card,
: etc... All that is basically lacking in the fbdev API at this point.
: 
: I'm also a bit swamped with work lately so I had to put my radeonfb
: work on hold for a while. Of course, any help on that is welcome ;)
: 
: Ben.
: 
: 

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