From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Alex Stewart <alex@foogod.com>
Cc: grim@undead.cc, James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Linux Fbdev development list
<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] neofb patches
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:18:27 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1083122306.20091.33.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52520.64.139.3.221.1083122220.squirrel@www.foogod.com>
> Firstly, all of the graphical apps you're describing should be VT-aware.
> If they aren't, you shouldn't be using them on anything other than
> dedicated framebuffers anyway, really. It's not hard to make an app work
> with VTs and it really is the correct way to do things for anything that
> is likely to be run in a VT-console environment.
A good idea would be to produce a library that implement most of the
ground VT handling work in fact... That would simplify things for
apps tremendously. Though it should probably sit between the app
and the kernel for console input as well.
It would basically callback into the app for things like beeing swithout
out and back in.
> With this issue solved, all that needs to be done is to make it so that
> apps which open up a new VT, automatically get it on the same framebuffer
> as the currently active console (or better yet, the console associated
> with the app) is on (which is really the most intuitive thing anyway, and
> should probably be done on general principle). Problem solved.
>
> You really don't need all the complex machinations of a magic /dev/fb
> device to achieve this. If the rest of the system is designed well the
> right behavior should be automatic without this extra effort.
>
> -alex
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-28 3:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-21 1:14 [PATCH] neofb patches Alex Stewart
2004-04-21 17:47 ` James Simmons
2004-04-21 19:10 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-04-22 8:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-23 23:27 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 16:53 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23 20:03 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 18:35 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 19:54 ` James Simmons
2004-04-22 3:18 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-22 20:57 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 4:03 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23 6:43 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23 23:00 ` James Simmons
2004-04-24 3:15 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Randy.Dunlap
2004-04-24 7:08 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-25 3:10 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2004-04-25 3:09 ` James Simmons
2004-04-24 17:29 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-25 0:55 ` James Simmons
2004-04-26 18:12 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-27 0:11 ` James Simmons
2004-04-27 1:15 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-27 8:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-27 10:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-27 20:25 ` James Simmons
2004-04-27 22:48 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27 23:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-27 23:21 ` James Simmons
2004-04-27 23:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-27 23:46 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27 23:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 0:38 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 0:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 1:39 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 3:17 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-28 3:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2004-04-28 17:02 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 4:36 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 4:56 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-28 6:59 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 8:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 22:00 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 0:29 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 0:54 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-04-28 1:15 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 1:21 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 16:53 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 0:23 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 0:20 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 0:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 7:08 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 8:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 10:16 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-28 16:37 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 16:50 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 22:26 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-28 23:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 23:59 ` James Simmons
2004-04-29 1:06 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 16:56 ` James Simmons
2004-04-29 21:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-30 15:06 ` Ville Syrjälä
2004-04-30 16:50 ` James Simmons
2004-05-01 0:40 ` Otto Solares
2004-05-06 19:28 ` Mobility M1 refresh code problem 2.4.26? Richard Smith
2004-05-06 19:57 ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-06 20:35 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-06 20:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-05-06 21:12 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07 7:57 ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-07 14:11 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07 15:34 ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-07 19:42 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07 23:11 ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-04-29 8:32 ` [PATCH] neofb patches Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-29 1:07 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29 1:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 13:01 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-29 17:52 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29 23:12 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-30 1:18 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-30 1:28 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-30 21:26 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 17:39 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 18:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 22:46 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27 8:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-23 16:07 ` James Simmons
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