From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Linux Fbdev development list
<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@yahoo.com>,
dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: radeon, apertures & memory mapping
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:09:10 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1110776950.19810.253.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e47339105031320407b3b6bcd@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 23:40 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:07:26 +1100, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
> > xorg@lists.freedesktop.org removed from CC since I can't post to it.
> >
> > Jon Smirl writes:
> >
> > > It shouldn't hurt to have a parallel non-cached mapping being used in
> > > conjuction with this protocol. By definition the non-cached mapping
> > > never gets into an inconsistent state.
> >
> > According to the PowerPC Architecture specification, it is a
> > programming error to have both cacheable and uncacheable mappings of
> > the same page. That means the hardware designers consider that they
> > don't have to worry if the hardware misbehaves if software does
> > that. :P So that is not a feasible solution for us.
> >
> > Paul.
>
> Ok, I see this is a problem for the PPC. I've never used a PPC so you
> guys have to tell me what is illegal on it.
And probably for other platforms as well. I'm pretty sure some Athlons
will be very upset too. I'm not even sure you can do that sort of tricks
on MIPS which has strange mapping rules, etc, etc, etc...
Anyway, mixing cacheable and non-cacheable mappings is asking for
trouble, just don't do it.
Having the ability to do both (selected by the platform type, or some
AGP errata bit, or whatever) is a different issue and might be worth
investigating.
Ben.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-14 5:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-13 1:35 radeon, apertures & memory mapping Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 3:22 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 6:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 16:22 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-14 4:28 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Michel Dänzer
2005-03-14 7:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 16:20 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-14 21:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 22:12 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-14 22:37 ` FB model basic issues (WAS: radeon, apertures & memory mapping) Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 4:59 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-15 5:14 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-15 6:01 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 6:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 14:00 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 14:29 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-15 17:25 ` Jan Gukelberger
2005-03-15 23:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 8:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-15 13:36 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 23:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 23:37 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2005-03-15 23:50 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 1:47 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 1:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 19:51 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 21:00 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 21:07 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 23:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 23:53 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 23:25 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1110929582.25201.34.camel@gaston>
2005-03-16 5:21 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 6:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 14:09 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 16:48 ` Adam Jackson
2005-03-16 23:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 11:30 ` Roland Scheidegger
2005-03-15 13:27 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 17:17 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 3:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 20:08 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 20:42 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 23:35 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-17 0:06 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 20:58 ` Alex Deucher
2005-03-16 21:08 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 21:17 ` Alex Deucher
2005-03-16 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 0:47 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-17 1:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 1:25 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-17 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 9:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-17 19:54 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 22:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 23:05 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 23:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 20:55 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 23:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 0:14 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-17 0:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 6:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 5:30 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-15 6:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 21:58 ` Ian Romanick
2005-03-13 3:55 ` radeon, apertures & memory mapping Vladimir Dergachev
2005-03-13 6:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 8:22 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-13 9:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 10:39 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-13 12:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 16:19 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 17:47 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-13 17:56 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 21:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 22:17 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 22:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 21:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 22:10 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 22:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 23:00 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 23:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 23:27 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-13 23:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 0:08 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 0:25 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-14 0:39 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 1:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 0:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 0:41 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-14 0:56 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 1:05 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 1:47 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-14 3:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 4:07 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-14 4:40 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-14 5:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-03-14 16:30 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Soeren Sandmann
2005-03-14 16:40 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 21:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 16:16 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 21:27 ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-03-14 21:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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