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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Teddy Wang <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
	Arnaud Patard <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 11:40:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1481283626.27965.9.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9twUSRvfmh2ENMXTwCx-ULGzmPpyHs_wMM0XGDeWHMhnXw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 10:08 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> What are people using fbcon for that needs acceleration, this is where I get
> a bit lost.
> 
> It's a console, if you aren't sshing into the machine.
> 
> It's main purpose should just be for gathering oopses and you've a lot better
> chance of getting an oops if you don't have some sketchy gpu accel in the way.

There are other uses for systems running Linux than being a server or desktop :-)

> The acceleration that most of the 2D things provide isn't ever that
> great, and shadowing is a lot more effective if done properly.

Not with a 400Mhz ARM9 processor on a fairly high res display. In these
case basic old things like color expansion for font rendering, bit
blits and solid fills for scrolls work beautifully. Anyway I just
realized that the ARM side of the AST GPU doesn't have the accel bits
at all anyway, only the host side, so I'm back to just a dumb FB. I
still want to avoid the copies though.

>  It's a feature
> that kernel ppl obsess over but I don't get a lot of real world feedback,
> (booting 9000 scsi nodes with debug on takes a long time was possibly
> something I heard once, and I think we resolved).

Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-09 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-23  8:03 [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] staging: remove xgifb Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] staging: remove sm750fb Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] staging: remove fbtft Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 17:26   ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-24  8:36     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 20:12   ` Drew Fustini
2016-11-23  8:19 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:21   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:25   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23  8:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23  9:12   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  9:49     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 10:05     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-22 20:36       ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-08 22:00     ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08  1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08  8:01   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08 21:23     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09  8:13         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-13  7:36       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-08 10:10   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 12:15     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:02       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:37           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-08 14:44             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 15:21               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 21:34                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09  8:34                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:41                       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 11:48                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 13:35                           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 20:27                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-13  7:18                               ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-09 11:44                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 12:33                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 13:19                         ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:33                         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:57                           ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 14:04                             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 20:29                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09  8:30                 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:59           ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:22         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 21:28     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09  0:08       ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09  8:04         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 11:40         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2016-12-13  7:33         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 15:17     ` Laurent Pinchart

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