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From: Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] video: implement a simple framebuffer driver
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:31:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1556968.7tR6KuEIWb@flatron> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1461633.kfcPFxva7x@avalon>

On Monday 29 of April 2013 23:20:43 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Tomasz,
> 
> On Monday 29 April 2013 23:15:13 Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > On Thursday 11 of April 2013 11:56:31 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Monday 08 April 2013 17:16:37 Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > On Wed,  3 Apr 2013 20:39:43 -0600 Stephen Warren wrote:
> > > > > A simple frame-buffer describes a raw memory region that may be
> > > > > rendered to, with the assumption that the display hardware has
> > > > > already been set up to scan out from that buffer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is useful in cases where a bootloader exists and has set up
> > > > > the
> > > > > display hardware, but a Linux driver doesn't yet exist for the
> > > > > display hardware.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > +config FB_SIMPLE
> > > > > +	bool "Simple framebuffer support"
> > > > > +	depends on (FB = y) && OF
> > > > 
> > > > It's sad that this simple little thing requires Open Firmware. 
> > > > Could
> > > > it be generalised in some way so that the small amount of setup
> > > > info
> > > > could be provided by other means (eg, module_param) or does the
> > > > dependency go deeper than that?
> > > 
> > > I second that request. I like the idea of a simple framebuffer
> > > driver if it helps deprecating fbdev in the long term, but I don't
> > > want it to offer an excuse not to implement a DRM/KMS driver. In
> > > particular adding DT bindings would force us to keep supporting the
> > > ABI for a (too) long time.
> > 
> > Well, there is also at least one legitimate use case for this driver.
> > 
> > I believe there exist embedded devices on which there is no need to
> > dynamically control the framebuffer. It needs one time initialization,
> > usually in bootloader, and then it is used as is, using constant
> > parameters as long as the system is running.
> > 
> > I doubt there is a need for any KMS (or any other control) driver for
> > such devices - dumb framebuffer driver would be everything needed in
> > such case.
> As we want to deprecate the fbdev API we would need to move to KMS at
> some point anyway, even if the device can't be controlled. I don't
> think writting such a KMS driver would be that difficult.

Good point. Stephen, would it be a problem to make this a KMS driver 
instead? Old fbdev API could be emulated on top of it, until it goes out 
of use, couldn't it?

Best regards,
Tomasz


  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-29 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-04  2:39 [PATCH V2] video: implement a simple framebuffer driver Stephen Warren
2013-04-09  0:16 ` Andrew Morton
2013-04-09  3:16   ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-09  8:08   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-04-11  9:56   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-11 16:06     ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-11 20:06       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-11 20:38         ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-29 20:56           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-29 21:15     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-04-29 21:20       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-29 21:31         ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2013-04-29 21:40           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-29 22:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-04-29 22:23               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-29 22:40                 ` Olof Johansson
2013-04-30  9:50                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-05-02 18:25               ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-02 18:35                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-05-03 10:06                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-05-07 21:33                   ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-08  2:36                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-08 19:28                       ` Olof Johansson
2013-05-08 20:58                       ` Rob Landley
2013-04-30  7:28       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-04-11 10:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-04-11 16:10   ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-30  7:27 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-04-30 10:28   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-04-30 11:42     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-30 11:48       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-04-30 11:49         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-30 11:46     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-05-03  5:40       ` Dave Airlie
2013-04-30  7:39 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-04-30 10:34   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-04-30 14:38   ` Re[2]: [PATCH V2] video: implement a simple f =?UTF-8?B?cmFtZWJ1ZmZlciBkc Alexander Shiyan
2013-04-30 15:07     ` Re[2]: [PATCH V2] video: implement a simple framebuffer driver Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-18 10:29 ` Alexandre Courbot
2013-05-20 15:25   ` Stephen Warren

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