From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Otto Solares Subject: Re: fbdv/fbcon pending problems Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:12:16 -0600 Sender: linux-fbdev-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <20040226201216.GH17390@guug.org> References: <20040226194020.GF17390@guug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.11] helo=sc8-sf-mx1.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AwS0t-0004tu-Li for linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:21:43 -0800 Received: from opensource-ca.org ([168.234.203.30] helo=guug.galileo.edu) by sc8-sf-mx1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AwRrK-0003SN-32 for linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:11:50 -0800 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Errors-To: linux-fbdev-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: James Simmons Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Linux Fbdev development list , Linux Kernel list On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:45:47PM +0000, James Simmons wrote: > > > Exactly, that's the whole point, if you want userland accel you must disable > > kernel land accel. That's was my question against acceleration work inside > > the kernel. Nobody use it in userland and is the stability devil in fbdev. > > If you want acceleration in userland there is mesa-solo or directfb or console-sdl. > > > > In short acceleration belongs to specialized libs not the kernel. > > > > Why accel it is needed for font drawing?, i am pretty sure my 8bit video old > > sparc doesn't have any accel and is pretty capable for drawing fonts. > > Because we are going to run into graphics hardware that don't have > framebuffers. The solution is the one we are approaching now. That fbcon > be a client like userland apps to the accel engine. You will see it will > all work out :-) Oh, that fact changes everything :) -otto ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click