From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Otto Solares Subject: Re: [PATCH] neofb patches Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:06:12 -0600 Sender: linux-fbdev-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <20040429010612.GC24584@guug.org> References: <408EE34F.8080106@undead.cc> <1083107454.16544.42.camel@gaston> <20040428002037.GE22495@guug.org> <1083112565.20473.10.camel@gaston> <20040428070832.GA23411@guug.org> <1083147416.18416.24.camel@thor.asgaard.local> <20040428163730.GA24448@guug.org> <1083191201.18413.73.camel@thor.asgaard.local> <1083195769.20089.106.camel@gaston> Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: Received: from sc8-sf-mx2-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.12] helo=sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BIzzr-0005qA-Og for linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:05:51 -0700 Received: from guug.org ([168.234.203.30]) by sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BIzzr-0008RH-AU for linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:05:51 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1083195769.20089.106.camel@gaston> Errors-To: linux-fbdev-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt Cc: Linux Frame Buffer Device Development On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:42:50AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > The idea here is to have a small per-card low level driver (no common > API or little of it) used to do the IRQ, fifo/ring management & blasting > of registers. Everything else is client of this driver, including > possibly fbcon. That also means we move all of mode management to > userland, which I tend to slowly agree with. Remember that in 2.7, we > may have an initramfs with klibc etc... thus we can have userland code > shipping along with the kernel. The fbdev is low-level, i vote for fbdev to be the single entity for graphics in linux. > I started working on a userland API do deal with all of the mode > management cruft that could be implemented either on top of fbdev or > something else, but I didn't have time to finish. And I think Jon Smirl > started his own different thing (of course) there... I would like to see that basic stuff being done in the kernel like mode setting. The drivers should have a better idea of modes than libraries in userspace. -otto ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click