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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@yahoo.com>
Cc: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>,
	Nicolas Souchu <nsouch@free.fr>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	mesa3d-dev <mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	fb-devel <linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Redesign of kernel graphics interface
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 18:33:53 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040507013353.27791.qmail@web14929.mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1BLu2K-0000aT-00@evo.keithp.com>

--- Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com> wrote:
> 
> Around 17 o'clock on May 6, Jon Smirl wrote:
> 
> > A proposal has been made that OpenGL be promoted as the primary base
> graphics
> > API on Linux. Then things like Cairo and the xserver be implemented on top
> of
> > OpenGL.
> 
> I respectfully disagree with this plan.  OpenGL should be the sole API for 
> accessing the graphics card for systems which support it, but I encourage 
> application developers to continue coding to the X API so that there 
> aren't unexpected "surprises" when run on a machine which doesn't support 
> OpenGL.
> 
> That the X server will use OpenGL to talk to these graphics cards is an 
> implementation detail which shouldn't be visible to applications.
> 

Read point #7

7) Going to OpenGL does not mean the end of X or remote access. xserver,
http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xserver, still talks the X protocol and
still supports xlib. It just uses OpenGL (when Keith gets it working) to draw
instead of XAA. If you use Glitz, http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/glitz, the
OpenGL Cairo implementation, it will draw direct rendered and by-pass the
xserver for local drawing.


> -keith
> 
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature 



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  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-07  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-06 18:16 Redesign of kernel graphics interface Jon Smirl
2004-05-06 19:46 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-05-06 23:20   ` James Simmons
2004-05-06 20:57 ` Otto Solares
2004-05-06 23:19 ` Nicolas Souchu
2004-05-06 21:42   ` Jon Smirl
2004-05-07  0:30     ` Nicolas Souchu
2004-05-06 22:48       ` James Simmons
2004-05-07  0:50         ` Jon Smirl
2004-05-07  1:20           ` [Dri-devel] " Keith Packard
2004-05-07  1:33             ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2004-05-07  8:31           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-05-14 17:20           ` Sven Luther
2004-05-14 17:35             ` Alex Deucher
2004-05-14 19:25               ` Sven Luther
2004-05-14 17:51             ` Jon Smirl
2004-05-14 18:08               ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                 ` <20040514184004.16621.qmail@web14930.mail.yahoo.com>
2004-05-14 19:01                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2004-05-15  7:27                     ` Holger Waechtler
2004-05-15  8:25                       ` Ville Syrjälä
2004-05-17 17:40                   ` Alan Cox
2004-05-14 19:31               ` Sven Luther
2004-05-10  0:57         ` [Dri-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-10 16:14           ` James Simmons
2004-05-10 16:28             ` [Dri-devel] " Ville Syrjälä
2004-05-10 22:42               ` Nicolas Souchu
2004-05-10 18:29             ` Jon Smirl
2004-05-10 19:16               ` Mike Mestnik
2004-05-10 21:05               ` James Simmons
2004-05-10 22:39               ` Nicolas Souchu
2004-05-10 20:47                 ` Otto Solares
2004-05-10 23:58                   ` James Simmons
2004-05-11 22:57                   ` Nicolas Souchu
2004-05-11 21:17                     ` Otto Solares
2004-05-11 21:29                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2004-05-10 19:33             ` [Dri-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Alan Cox
2004-05-11  8:33               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-05-10 23:40             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-10 23:50               ` James Simmons
2004-05-11 22:13                 ` Compiling Rage xlinit.c Richard Smith
2004-05-14 19:41                   ` Richard Smith
2004-05-14 21:28                     ` Steve Longerbeam
2004-05-14 22:16                       ` Richard Smith
2004-05-14 22:48                         ` Steve Longerbeam
2004-05-14 23:57                           ` Richard Smith
2004-05-15  0:22                             ` Steve Longerbeam
2004-05-15  0:42                             ` Ville Syrjälä
2004-05-18 22:06                             ` James Simmons
2004-05-19 14:36                               ` Richard Smith
2004-05-19 22:20                                 ` James Simmons
2004-05-07  8:30       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] Redesign of kernel graphics interface Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-05-06 23:21   ` James Simmons
2004-05-10 12:07 ` [Dri-devel] " Egbert Eich

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