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From: Otto Solares <solca@guug.org>
To: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: framebuffer ioctl
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:43:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040906184306.GA29544@guug.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <413B4925.5000706@comcast.net>

On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 10:13:09AM -0700, Zack wrote:
> Some reasons for moving drawing routines into the kernel include
> (correct me if I'm wrong)

Does 'moving drawing routines into the kernel' means 'exporting
to user-space drawing (possibly accelerated)' routines?

> 1. there is some needless duplication of effort between these
> various fullscreen-gui projects (svgalib, ggi, etc)
> 2. there is afaik presently no good facility for adding acceleration
> support for things like drawing lines
> 3. the chance that any fullscreen-gui project will become broken
> due to a new kernel is real (SVGAlib is broken with 2.4.26 & 2.6.7)
> 4. new features would be optional anyway: fullscreen-guis need not
> recognize their existence, but would benefit from doing so
> since some fb drivers would override the generic routines
> to implement accelerated routines.

These are good reasons for a single user-space library, not kernel
bloat.

The only consumer of drawing routines in the kernel is fbcon,
and acceleration should not go into the kernel, user-space libs do
a better and safer job here.

The only --true-- reason drawing routines should go into the kernel
is hw w/o a user-space accesible fb (maybe true for some rare and
for some next-gen cards).

-otto


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-06 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-04 11:04 framebuffer ioctl (fwd) Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-04 21:44 ` Otto Wyss
2004-09-05 17:13   ` framebuffer ioctl Zack
2004-09-06  1:33     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-09-06 15:36       ` Otto Wyss
2004-09-06 21:21         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-09-06 21:58           ` Zack
2004-09-06 23:05             ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-09-06 19:56       ` Zack
2004-09-06 21:02         ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 21:11           ` [OT] " Otto Solares
2004-09-06 21:39             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07  0:01               ` Otto Solares
2004-09-07  0:11                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 21:24           ` Michel Dänzer
2004-09-07 14:17             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 14:26               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-07 14:38                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 15:58                   ` Otto Wyss
2004-09-07 14:45                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 15:52               ` Michel Dänzer
2004-09-08  5:43                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-08 13:59                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2004-09-08 22:47                     ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-13 15:54                   ` vga softboot code repository Richard Smith
2004-09-13 16:00                     ` vga softboot code repository oops Richard Smith
2004-09-13 16:06                     ` vga softboot code repository Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 18:43     ` Otto Solares [this message]
2004-09-06 19:08       ` framebuffer ioctl Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 19:24         ` Otto Solares
2004-09-06 19:33           ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 15:48             ` Otto Wyss
2004-09-07 16:01               ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 18:09               ` Otto Solares
2004-09-06 19:33           ` Jon Smirl

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