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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala@sci.fi>
To: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: framebuffer ioctl
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:59:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040908135935.GA4661@sci.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e47339104090722437b81b373@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 01:43:42AM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:52:00 -0400, Michel Dänzer <michel@daenzer.net> wrote:
> > All I'm saying is that it reflects badly on you if you need to resort to
> > skewed numbers.
> 
> I don't think they are skewed. Most desktops today have hardware
> OpenGL and software Render. The ratios are an accurate reflection of
> what a normal user would see when comparing Cairo on X vs Cairo on
> OpenGL. You may try to change the platform in the future but hardware
> Render is not deployed anywhere currently.

AFAIK neither is Cairo.

If I had too much time on my hands I might port glitz to DirectFB so you 
could quote some more meaningful benchmarks ;)

> Even KeithP says he would rather be on OpenGL than to continue
> accelerating Render functions and he designed Render. The argument is
> not about the technical merits of Render vs OpenGL, it's about the
> fact that OpenGL is a widely available standard that is well
> documented. Thousands of people can program to the OpenGL APL while
> only very few know about Render. Let's stand on the shoulders of other
> programmers (you're one of them since you helped with mesa) rather
> than build everything again.

No one is preventing you from doing that. But other people have other 
priorities and you constantly ignoring that fact doesn't help matters. You 
can dream of world domination all you want but in the world of open source 
people tend to do what they find interesting.

I welcome you work on the drm since it appears to reduce the amount of 
unnecessary user space init code. When the drm gets easier to use other 
projects may adopt it.

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
syrjala@sci.fi
http://www.sci.fi/~syrjala/


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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-08 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-04 11:04 framebuffer ioctl (fwd) Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-04 21:44 ` Otto Wyss
2004-09-05 17:13   ` framebuffer ioctl Zack
2004-09-06  1:33     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-09-06 15:36       ` Otto Wyss
2004-09-06 21:21         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-09-06 21:58           ` Zack
2004-09-06 23:05             ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-09-06 19:56       ` Zack
2004-09-06 21:02         ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 21:11           ` [OT] " Otto Solares
2004-09-06 21:39             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07  0:01               ` Otto Solares
2004-09-07  0:11                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 21:24           ` Michel Dänzer
2004-09-07 14:17             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 14:26               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-07 14:38                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 15:58                   ` Otto Wyss
2004-09-07 14:45                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 15:52               ` Michel Dänzer
2004-09-08  5:43                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-08 13:59                   ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2004-09-08 22:47                     ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-13 15:54                   ` vga softboot code repository Richard Smith
2004-09-13 16:00                     ` vga softboot code repository oops Richard Smith
2004-09-13 16:06                     ` vga softboot code repository Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 18:43     ` framebuffer ioctl Otto Solares
2004-09-06 19:08       ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 19:24         ` Otto Solares
2004-09-06 19:33           ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 15:48             ` Otto Wyss
2004-09-07 16:01               ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-07 18:09               ` Otto Solares
2004-09-06 19:33           ` Jon Smirl

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