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From: "Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@hotpop.com>
To: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	"Mukund JB." <mukundjb@esntechnologies.co.in>
Subject: Re: how to activate X with famebuffer
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:33:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200409290533.51839.adaplas@hotpop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE0CBA31942E547B99B3D4BFAB3481110808C@mail.esn.co.in>

On Tuesday 28 September 2004 19:27, Mukund JB. wrote:
>
> ACCORDING TO FRAMEBUFFER DEFINITION :-
> A framebuffer device is an abstraction for the graphic hardware. It
> represents the frame buffer of some video hardware, and allows application
> software to access the graphic hardware through a well−defined interface,
> so that the software doesn't need to know anything about the low−level
> interface stuff
>
> This is taken from Geert Uytterhoeven's framebuffer.txt in the linux kernel
> sources. In the above definition what is an Application? Is it the X
> server, Applications above it?

'Application' is any process, user or kernel, that directly runs on top of the 
framebuffer. It can be X, or the framebuffer console.  It can be a process 
that totally bypasses X, such as directfb or mplayer -vo fbdev. Any process 
that does not run directly on top of the framebuffer is not considered as 
part of the 'Application' layer, such as kwrite on X on fbdev, or 'mplayer 
-vo directfb' on directfb on fbdev.

But X on fbdev or direcfb on fbdev or mplayer on fbdev are all considered part 
of the 'Application' layer.

>
> Suppose there is a kwrite application, obviously running over X server.
> Looking at this angle the flow is as follows:-
>
>
> 	NORMAL Applications ( Kwrite)
> 	-------------------
> 		X Server
> 	-------------------
> 	Framebuffer Driver
> 	-------------------
> 		HARDWARE
>

Yes, above is how it works.  In this case, Kwrite doesn't know a thing about 
the framebuffer, as it runs on top of X.  Or more properly, something like 
this:

NORMAL Applications such as X, DirectFB, mplayer, etc
-------------------
Framebuffer Driver
-------------------
HARDWARE

The X server is considered as part of 'NORMAL Applications'.

> Is it Applications like Kwrite should support Framebuffer in order the X
> server makes use of it. If this is the case, the flow will be as follows:-
>
> 	NORMAL Applications (Apps instructs X server - Use fb or don't use)
>    -------------------------
> 		X Server
>    -------------------------
> Framebuffer / NON-Framebuffer
> 		 Driver
>    -------------------------
> 		HARDWARE

No, the above is not the case.

Tony




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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-28 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-28 11:27 how to activate X with famebuffer Mukund JB.
2004-09-28 21:33 ` Antonino A. Daplas [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-28  5:41 Mukund JB.
2004-09-28  6:54 ` Carlo E. Prelz
2004-09-27 13:36 Mukund JB.
2004-09-27 18:11 ` Carlo E. Prelz
2004-09-27  9:28 Mukund JB.
2004-09-27 11:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-27  5:15 Mukund JB.
2004-09-27  5:48 ` Carlo E. Prelz

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