From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Vincent Hanquez Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:25:43 +0000 Message-ID: <20091103112543.GA24834@snarc.org> References: <1257199759-2941-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4AEFCBED.50804@redhat.com> <4AEFCCBA.9050408@redhat.com> <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de> <4AEFCEDA.4030308@redhat.com> <87F51670-CB3F-431C-87B4-A8746F996C6F@suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87F51670-CB3F-431C-87B4-A8746F996C6F@suse.de> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Alexander Graf Cc: Avi Kivity , linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 07:39:34AM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote: > > On 03.11.2009, at 07:34, Avi Kivity wrote: > >> On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote: >>> >>>> How does it work today? >>> >>> You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing >>> haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode >>> as quickly as possible and off into SSH / VNC. >> >> Despite the coolness factor, IMO a few minutes during install time do >> not justify a new hardware model and a new driver. > > It's more than just coolness factor. There are use cases out there > (www.susestudio.com) that don't want to rely on the guest exporting a VNC > server to the outside just to access graphics. You also want to see boot > messages, have a console login screen, be able to debug things without > switching between virtio-console and vnc, etc. etc. > > The hardware model isn't exactly new either. It's just the next logical > step to a full PV machine using virtio. If the virtio-fb stuff turns out > to be really fast and reliable, I could even imagine it being the default > target for kvm on ppc as well, as we can't switch resolutions on the fly > there atm. not sure if i'm missing the point here, but couldn't it be hypothetically extended to stuff 3d (or video & more 2d accel ?) commands too ? I can't imagine the cirrus or stdvga driver be able to do that ever ;) -- Vincent