From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
To: timofonic timofonic <timofonic-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Fbdev development list
<linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven
<geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>,
dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
wayland-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Future desktop on dumb frame buffers?
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:25:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110321122518.6b7ec7e4@jbarnes-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimjOs8ZuKRUt1aOizhbRw2-Ni4bTPty-dKpZ-rz-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:19:43 +0000
timofonic timofonic <timofonic@gmail.com> wrote:
> So if KMS is so cool and provides many advantages over fbdev and
> such... Why isn't more widely used intead of still relying on fbdev?
> Why still using fbdev emulation (that is partial and somewhat broken,
> it seems) instead using KMS directly?
Used by what? All three major GPU device classes have KMS support
(Intel, ATI, and nVidia). If you want it for a particular device, you
can always port it over.
As for fbdev emulation, what's still using it? There's nothing
stopping projects from converting over; X and Wayland can already
handle KMS APIs just fine.
> I know the graphic driver situation is quite bad on Linux, especially
> on the embedded world. Fbdev seems is still quite used there by binary
> blob drivers.
Probably for a couple of reasons:
1) inertia: fbdev has been around a lot longer, and provides most of
what embedded devices need anyway
2) feature set: why bother doing a full KMS driver if you're not
going to use any of the additional features it would provide (output
management, memory management, execution management)
Jesse
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-21 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-19 11:20 Future desktop on dumb frame buffers? Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-03-19 15:45 ` Rob Clark
2011-03-21 18:00 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-03-21 19:19 ` timofonic timofonic
[not found] ` <AANLkTimjOs8ZuKRUt1aOizhbRw2-Ni4bTPty-dKpZ-rz-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-21 19:25 ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2011-03-21 19:34 ` Corbin Simpson
2011-03-21 19:59 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-03-21 21:13 ` Ondrej Zary
2011-03-21 21:46 ` Alex Deucher
2011-03-21 19:50 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-03-21 19:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-03-21 20:08 ` Alex Deucher
2011-03-23 14:09 ` Robert Fekete
2011-03-24 11:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-03-21 21:20 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20110321212008.384711f0-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-21 21:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-03-21 21:37 ` Matt Turner
2011-04-04 9:40 ` Alan Cox
2011-03-22 15:26 ` Michal Suchanek
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