From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
Cc: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
"linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: cirrusdrmfb broken with simplefb
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:44:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131219124417.GA18305@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANq1E4R5fF+Xtub8E_64bh6akZi8uU6d2ntG-rzsc_D7KFBY=g@mail.gmail.com>
* David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > * David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:03 AM, One Thousand Gnomes
> >> <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> >> >> > That bug always existed, simplefb is just the first driver to hit it
> >> >> > (vesafb/efifb didn't use resources). I'm aware of the issue but as a
> >> >> > workaround you can simply disable CONFIG_X86_SYSFB. That restores
> >> >> > the old behavior.
> >> >>
> >> >> This looks like a regression, so we'll either need a fix or we'll have
> >> >> to mark CONFIG_X86_SYSFB as CONFIG_BROKEN.
> >> >
> >> > Kernel bugzilla has entries for simplefb breaking both vesafb and
> >> > matrox mga.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the hints. I've read through all I could find and tried
> >> to provide some help.
> >>
> >> I'm kind of confused, most of them enable CONFIG_X86_SYSFB (which is
> >> 'n' by default) but don't read the help text. I did my best to tell
> >> people that this option requires CONFIG_FB_SIMPLE, but if you don't
> >> read the help-text you won't notice that. Don't know what to do
> >> about that..
> >
> > People generally don't read the help text - still the kernel should
> > not break. So please the Kconfig angle (and the bootup logic, etc.)
> > fool-proof, graphics failures are not fun to debug!
>
> There're dozens of combinations that break gfx-boot. [...]
Then that's a bug too.
> [...] Even non-obvious things like disabling VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING
> will break gfx-handover. Anyhow, bad examples are no excuse.. I will
> send patches to fool-proof sysfb.
Cool, thanks!
Arguably there's a lot of broken gfx legacy in Linux.
<SoapBox>: 15 years ago we should have merged GGI that really got the
integrated gfx principles right from the get go IMHO - and we've been
struggling with fragmented, disjunct gfx concepts since then, but IMHO
it's getting better gradually, so please don't give up! ;-)
Ingo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-19 12:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-18 7:42 cirrusdrmfb broken with simplefb Takashi Iwai
2013-12-18 8:21 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-18 8:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-18 8:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-12-18 10:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-18 10:21 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-18 11:39 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-18 11:48 ` [RFC] x86: sysfb: remove sysfb when probing real hw David Herrmann
2013-12-18 11:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-18 13:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-18 13:34 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-18 14:02 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-18 13:50 ` [PATCH v2] " David Herrmann
2013-12-18 14:15 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-18 14:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-19 10:13 ` [PATCH v3] " David Herrmann
2013-12-19 16:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 17:03 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-19 17:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 17:18 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-19 17:24 ` [PATCH v4] " David Herrmann
2013-12-19 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 14:46 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v3] " Stephen Warren
2013-12-19 18:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 19:09 ` Stephen Warren
2013-12-19 19:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-18 9:29 ` cirrusdrmfb broken with simplefb Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 0:03 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-19 10:46 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-19 11:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-19 12:36 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-19 13:22 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-19 13:37 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-19 14:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-19 14:13 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-19 14:22 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-12-19 12:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 12:39 ` David Herrmann
2013-12-19 12:44 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
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