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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH 4/4] simplefb: add clock handling code
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:44:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140929104454.GD26008@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdU4u7K5NUk+p2iT-Sc_PuOjOT2FpFBj6TQMm2ThOuVVqQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:35:17PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Thierry,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Thierry Reding
> <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> How is that less generic?
> >
> > It's more generic. That's the whole point.
> >
> > The difference is that with the solution I proposed we don't have to
> > keep track of all the resources. We know that firmware has set them up
> > and we know that a real driver will properly take them over at some
> > point, so duplicating what the real driver does within the simplefb
> > driver is just that, duplication. We don't allow duplication anywhere
> > else in the kernel, why should simplefb be an exception?
> >
> >> You know that you are going to call that for regulator, reset, power
> >> domains, just as you would have needed to with the proper API, unless
> >> that with this kind of solution, you would have to modify *every*
> >> framework that might interact with any resource involved in getting
> >> simplefb running?
> >
> > We have to add handling for every kind of resource either way. Also if
> > this evolves into a common pattern we can easily wrap it up in a single
> > function call.
> 
> disable_all_power_management(), as this is not limited to clocks.

Right. But it isn't all power management either. It just shouldn't turn
everything unused off. Clocks, regulators, power domains and so on which
are used can very well be power managed.

> >> Plus, speaking more specifically about the clocks, that won't prevent
> >> your clock to be shut down as a side effect of a later clk_disable
> >> call from another driver.
> 
> > Furthermore isn't it a bug for a driver to call clk_disable() before a
> > preceding clk_enable()? There are patches being worked on that will
> > enable per-user clocks and as I understand it they will specifically
> > disallow drivers to disable the hardware clock if other drivers are
> > still keeping them on via their own referenc.
> 
> Calling clk_disable() preceding clk_enable() is a bug.
> 
> Calling clk_disable() after clk_enable() will disable the clock (and
> its parents)
> if the clock subsystem thinks there are no other users, which is what will
> happen here.

Right. I'm not sure this is really applicable to this situation, though.
Either way, if there are other users of a clock then they will just as
likely want to modify the rate at which point simplefb will break just
as badly.

Thierry

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-29 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 269+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-13  7:17 simplefb: add clock handling Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13  7:17 ` [PATCH 1/4] simplefb: formalize pseudo palette handling Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13  7:25   ` David Herrmann
2014-08-13  8:46     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-13  8:50       ` David Herrmann
2014-08-13 16:45   ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-13  7:17 ` [PATCH 2/4] simplefb: add goto error path to probe Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13  7:27   ` David Herrmann
2014-08-14 10:29     ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-14 10:33       ` David Herrmann
2014-08-14 10:42         ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13  7:17 ` [PATCH 3/4] simplefb: disable dt node upon remove Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13  8:40   ` Grant Likely
2014-08-13  8:49     ` David Herrmann
2014-08-13  9:23       ` Grant Likely
2014-08-13  9:32         ` David Herrmann
2014-08-13  9:45         ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13 10:19           ` [linux-sunxi] " Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13 12:54             ` jonsmirl
2014-08-13 19:14               ` Grant Likely
2014-08-13 19:25                 ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13 19:58                   ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-13 20:01                     ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13 20:00                   ` Grant Likely
2014-08-13 20:19                     ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13 20:41                 ` [linux-sunxi] " jonsmirl
2014-08-14 10:15                   ` Grant Likely
2014-08-14 12:07                     ` jonsmirl
2014-08-15  0:45                       ` Henrik Nordström
2014-08-15  1:27                         ` jonsmirl
2014-08-15  6:43                           ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-15 12:34                             ` jonsmirl
2014-08-13 16:44       ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-13 17:26         ` [linux-sunxi] " jonsmirl
2014-08-13 17:34           ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-13 17:44             ` jonsmirl
2014-08-13  7:17 ` [PATCH 4/4] simplefb: add clock handling code Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13 16:38   ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-13 16:47     ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13 17:01     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-14  9:37       ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
2014-08-14 10:31         ` [linux-sunxi] " Koen Kooi
2014-08-14 10:57           ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-14 11:18             ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-14 11:18           ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-25 12:12       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 12:44         ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-25 13:39           ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 13:47             ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
2014-08-25 14:16               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 14:23                 ` jonsmirl
2014-08-25 14:27                   ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-25 15:12                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 15:18                       ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-26  8:40                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 13:22                           ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-26 13:43                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 15:49                       ` jonsmirl
2014-08-26  9:02                         ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-25 15:01                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 14:23                 ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-25 14:53                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 15:07                     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-26  8:26                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26  9:00                         ` Mark Brown
2014-08-26  9:18                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 10:06                             ` Mark Brown
2014-08-26 10:55                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 11:33                                 ` Mark Brown
2014-08-26 18:40                                 ` Henrik Nordström
2014-08-27  7:40                                   ` Mark Brown
2014-08-27  8:22                                     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-27  8:37                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-27  8:55                                         ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-27  9:05                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-27 10:32                                             ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-27 10:07                                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 10:26                                           ` Henrik Nordström
2014-08-27 12:45                                         ` Julian Calaby
2014-08-27 13:24                                           ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-25 15:08                     ` jonsmirl
2014-08-25 14:58                 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-25 15:05                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 15:09                     ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-26  7:52                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 12:02                         ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-26 12:21                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 12:33                             ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-26 14:41                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 15:22                     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-26  8:04                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26  8:45                         ` Michal Suchanek
2014-08-26 13:53                         ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-26 14:35                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 19:59                             ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-27  9:31                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 10:35                                 ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-27 12:44                                   ` jonsmirl
2014-08-27 12:50                                     ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-27 12:56                                       ` jonsmirl
2014-08-27 13:05                                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 12:56                                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 13:44                                     ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-27 14:16                                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-28 12:15                                         ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-28 13:22                                           ` jonsmirl
2014-08-28 14:20                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-28 14:33                                               ` jonsmirl
2014-08-28 14:37                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-28 15:11                                                   ` jonsmirl
2014-08-28 16:25                                                 ` Michal Suchanek
2014-08-28 16:34                                                   ` jonsmirl
2014-08-28 16:50                                                     ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-28 20:31                                                     ` Michal Suchanek
2014-08-29  7:16                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-29  7:01                                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-29  7:23                                             ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-29  8:12                                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-29 14:12                                             ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-29 14:38                                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-29 15:25                                                 ` Michal Suchanek
2014-09-02  9:25                                                 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-27 23:56                                                   ` Mike Turquette
2014-09-29  8:06                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29  8:27                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-29  8:54                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29  9:10                                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-29  9:29                                                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29  9:44                                                           ` Michal Suchanek
2014-09-29 10:40                                                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29  9:23                                                       ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-29 10:18                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 10:35                                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-29 10:44                                                             ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2014-09-29 11:32                                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-29 14:00                                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 11:34                                                               ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-29 13:54                                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 15:57                                                                   ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-30  4:59                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30  7:46                                                                       ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-30 11:43                                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2014-09-30 11:46                                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 21:37                                                                   ` Mike Turquette
2014-10-01  7:30                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01 18:17                                                                       ` Mike Turquette
2014-10-02  8:12                                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 11:00                                                           ` Julian Calaby
2014-09-29 13:21                                                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 14:46                                                               ` Julian Calaby
2014-09-29 15:19                                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 15:42                                                                   ` Michal Suchanek
2014-09-30  0:10                                                                   ` Julian Calaby
2014-09-29 11:46                                                           ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-29 13:47                                                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 15:04                                                               ` Michal Suchanek
2014-09-29 15:49                                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 16:39                                                                   ` Michal Suchanek
2014-09-29 15:55                                                               ` Mark Brown
2014-09-30  5:09                                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 17:39                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2014-10-01  7:41                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01 11:10                                                                       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-10-01 12:32                                                                         ` Mark Brown
2014-10-01 12:48                                                                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01 17:05                                                                             ` Mark Brown
2014-10-01 17:26                                                                               ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-01 17:54                                                                                 ` jonsmirl
2014-10-01 18:12                                                                                   ` Stephen Warren
2014-10-01 18:16                                                                                     ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-10-02  6:42                                                                                     ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 12:22                                                                                       ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 12:39                                                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 12:56                                                                                           ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 13:14                                                                                             ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 13:27                                                                                               ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 13:33                                                                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 13:40                                                                                                   ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 14:08                                                                                                     ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 14:16                                                                                                       ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 14:21                                                                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 14:41                                                                                                           ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 14:50                                                                                                             ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 15:14                                                                                                               ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 15:30                                                                                                                 ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 15:38                                                                                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 15:36                                                                                                                 ` Michal Suchanek
2014-10-02 23:31                                                                                                                 ` Julian Calaby
2014-10-03  7:56                                                                                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-11 16:15                                                                                                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-10-02 14:18                                                                                                       ` Maxime Ripard
2014-10-02 14:23                                                                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 14:17                                                                                                     ` Michal Suchanek
2014-10-02 13:59                                                                                                 ` Michal Suchanek
2014-10-02 13:23                                                                                             ` Michal Suchanek
2014-10-02 13:34                                                                                               ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 13:40                                                                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-02 13:44                                                                                                   ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 13:46                                                                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-02 13:49                                                                                                   ` jonsmirl
2014-10-02 19:15                                                                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-02 15:49                                                                                       ` Stephen Warren
2014-10-03 11:16                                                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-03 11:45                                                                                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-10-03 11:53                                                                                             ` Hans de Goede
2014-10-01 11:31                                                                       ` Mark Brown
2014-09-29 16:28                                                               ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-29 16:58                                                                 ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-09-29 22:02                                                                   ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-09-30  5:39                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30  8:03                                                                       ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-30 11:02                                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 12:41                                                                     ` Mark Brown
2014-09-30 12:50                                                                       ` jonsmirl
2014-09-30  5:21                                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30  7:52                                                                   ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-30  8:54                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30  9:38                                                                       ` Michal Suchanek
2014-09-30 11:31                                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 14:12                                                                           ` Michal Suchanek
2014-09-30 12:29                                                                       ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-29 16:11                                                       ` Mark Brown
2014-09-30  6:03                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 18:00                                                           ` Mark Brown
2014-10-01  8:14                                                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01 12:20                                                               ` Mark Brown
2014-10-01 12:48                                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01 13:01                                                                   ` jonsmirl
2014-10-01 13:17                                                                     ` Michal Suchanek
2014-10-01 13:40                                                                       ` jonsmirl
2014-10-01 17:17                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2014-10-01 18:43                                                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-02  8:30                                                                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-02  8:27                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01  8:17                                                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 17:51                                                       ` jonsmirl
2014-09-29 18:06                                                         ` Michal Suchanek
2014-08-27 13:56                                     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-27 14:30                                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 13:43                                 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-26 21:02                             ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-27  6:54                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  8:00                                 ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-27  9:37                                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  8:45                                 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-27  9:52                                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 15:42                                     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-27 20:57                                       ` Michal Suchanek
2014-08-28 10:08                                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-29  5:13                                           ` Michal Suchanek
2014-08-29  6:19                                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-29  6:48                                               ` Michal Suchanek
2014-08-29  7:08                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-28 10:11                                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-28 10:32                                         ` Michal Suchanek
2014-08-28 20:46                                         ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-29  6:29                                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-29 13:57                                             ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-29 14:31                                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  8:17                           ` Henrik Nordström
2014-08-25 15:25               ` Andreas Färber
2014-08-26 13:19                 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-13  7:54 ` simplefb: add clock handling David Herrmann
2014-08-13  8:11   ` Luc Verhaegen
2014-08-13  8:21   ` [linux-sunxi] " Koen Kooi
2014-08-13  8:36     ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-13 10:16       ` Koen Kooi
2014-08-13 10:24         ` David Herrmann
2014-08-13 11:36         ` Hans de Goede

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