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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: Jyri Sarha <jsarha@ti.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, peter.ujfalusi@ti.com,
	liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7.1 00/19] Rework OMAP4+ HDMI audio support
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:39:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141124173920.GL7712@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5472E9D7.7000908@ti.com>

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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:18:31AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 21/11/14 18:14, Mark Brown wrote:

> > But in what way is it broken and how did this happen?  Why are none of

> I don't have a clear answer, but it probably involves lack of use, and
> buggy and hard to use implementation. Things have changed around the
> original HDMI audio implementation, and it stopped working at some point.

> As the original implementation was found rather lacking, and with some
> fundamental issues, it was deemed better to have a fresh approach.

OK...  this is all telling me that I *really* need to scrub this in
detail.  It's all sounding very vague, it's an area which seems to cause
lots of problems and I don't want to be sitting here next time around
trying to figure out if another rewrite makes things better or worse or
if another driver should look similar or different.

> > the patches which look like they're supposed to be bug fixes early on in
> > the series getting applied?  I had thought this was just a lack of
> > interest on the video side but it seems there's some other problems
> > since the series has apparently been discussed off-list and still it's
> > just as big as it was initially.

> The whole series is about HDMI audio, not video.

You know exactly what I mean - the early patches are in drivers/video,
don't touch anything outside of that and have no obvious dependencies.

> This series only touch the parts about HDMI audio, so the fixes early on
> don't really fix anything without the rest of the series (as the current
> HDMI audio doesn't work).

> And in any case, I don't like applying individual patches from a series.
> Usually that just complicates things. If I would apply some of the early
> patches to fbdev, then this series would no longer work on plain
> mainline kernel, and would instead depend on fbdev tree. The situation

But I thought everyone was saying this hardware doesn't work anyway and
that you want to apply all these changes to fbdev?

> would be ever worse if you'd also pick some of the audio patches to
> sound tree, creating a dependency to two subsystem trees.

> So if there's no particular important reason to pick patches from a
> series, I rather keep it as a whole to simplify merging and testing.

This means we're all then stuck reading reposts of the same enormous
series over and over again - as a reviewer a really big series that
appears from the subject lines to be mostly about another system is
really offputting.  If you're going to do something like this please at
least reply to the messages, that way it's clearer that there's not
going to be a dependency problem getting the patches applied (which is
part of what makes things offputting).

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-24 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-12 14:40 [PATCH v7.1 00/19] Rework OMAP4+ HDMI audio support Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v7.1 01/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi_wp: Protect reserved bits in hdmi_wp_audio_config_format() Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v7.1 02/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi5_core: Initialize mandatory sample_order parameter Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v7.1 03/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi.h: Add HDMI_AUDIO_LAYOUT_6CH enum value Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v7.1 04/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi: Remove most of OMAP[45]_DSS_HDMI_AUDIO ifdefs Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v7.1 05/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi4_core: Remove unused hdmi4_audio_get_dma_port() Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v7.1 06/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi_wp: Add function for getting audio dma address Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v7.1 07/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi: Make hdmi structure public Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v7.1 08/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi: Add pdev pointer for audio_pdev in HDMI DRV data Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 09/19] ASoC: omap-hdmi-audio: Add platform device for OMAP HDMI audio support Jyri Sarha
2014-11-29 11:32   ` Mark Brown
2014-12-01  7:15     ` Jyri Sarha
2014-12-01 19:21       ` Mark Brown
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 10/19] OMAPDSS: Kconfig: Remove HDMI audio booleans from Kconfig Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 11/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi: Make hdmi_mode_has_audio() more user friedly Jyri Sarha
2014-11-14 14:37   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-14 15:05     ` Jyri Sarha
2014-11-17 15:12       ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-15 15:52     ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 12/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi.h: Add members to hdmi drvdata for audio implementation Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 13/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi4: Remove callbacks for the old ASoC DAI driver Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 14/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi4: Register ASoC platform device for omap hdmi audio Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 15/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi5: Remove callbacks for the old ASoC DAI driver Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 16/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi5: Register ASoC platform device for omap hdmi audio Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 17/19] ASoC: omap: Remove obsolete HDMI audio code and Kconfig options Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 18/19] OMAPDSS: Remove all references to obsolete HDMI audio callbacks Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 14:41 ` [PATCH v7.1 19/19] OMAPDSS: hdmi5: Change hdmi_wp idlemode to to no_idle for audio playback Jyri Sarha
2014-11-12 22:23 ` [PATCH v7.1 00/19] Rework OMAP4+ HDMI audio support Mark Brown
2014-11-13  8:05   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-13  9:17     ` [alsa-devel] " Jean-Francois Moine
2014-11-13 10:00       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-13 14:54         ` Jyri Sarha
2014-11-13 14:57         ` Jean-Francois Moine
2014-11-13 15:44           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-14 10:59             ` Jean-Francois Moine
2014-11-20 10:59     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-21 11:23       ` Mark Brown
2014-11-21 12:10         ` Jyri Sarha
2014-11-21 16:38           ` Mark Brown
2014-11-24  8:48             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-24 14:55             ` Jyri Sarha
2014-11-21 12:35         ` Jyri Sarha
2014-11-21 16:14           ` Mark Brown
2014-11-24  8:18             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-24 17:39               ` Mark Brown [this message]
2014-11-25  9:26                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-25 18:10                   ` Mark Brown
2014-11-26 11:02                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-29 11:59 ` Mark Brown
2014-12-01  9:07   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-12-01 19:31     ` Mark Brown
2014-12-02  8:52       ` Jyri Sarha

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