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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 06/47] mtrr: add __arch_phys_wc_add()
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:55:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150402205520.GX5622@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo7wazwgkEHkLixA88Lcq1Te564Xdd6k=6292JdT3hu8pw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 03:21:22PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
> <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com> wrote:
> > From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
> >
> > Ideally on systems using PAT we can expect a swift
> > transition away from MTRR. There can be a few exceptions
> > to this, one is where device drivers are known to exist
> > on PATs with errata,
> 
> This probably makes sense to someone steeped in MTRR and PAT, but not
> otherwise.  "One exception is where drivers are known to exist on PATs
> with errata"?  The drivers exist, independent of PAT/MTRR/errata.  Do
> you mean there are drivers that can't be converted from MTRR to PAT
> because some PATs are broken?

Well there is that but it seems we have motivation to
address the PAT broken systems so this would be one of the
lower priority reasons to consider adding this API. The
more important reason is below.

> I don't really know anything about MTRR or PAT; I'm just trying to
> figure out how to parse this paragraph.

Sure.

> > another situation is observed on
> > old device drivers where devices had combined MMIO
> > register access with whatever area they typically
> > later wanted to end up using MTRR for on the same
> > PCI BAR. This situation can still be addressed by
> > splitting up ioremap'd PCI BAR into two ioremap'd
> > calls, one for MMIO registers, and another for whatever
> > is desirable for write-combining -- in order to
> > accomplish this though quite a bit of driver
> > restructuring is required.
> >
> > Device drivers which are known to require large
> > amount of re-work in order to split ioremap'd areas
> > can use __arch_phys_wc_add() to avoid regressions
> > when PAT is enabled.
> >
> > For a good example driver where things are neatly
> > split up on a PCI BAR refer the infiniband qib
> > driver. For a good example of a driver where good
> > amount of work is required refer to the infiniband
> > ipath driver.
> >
> > This is *only* a transitive API -- and as such no new
> > drivers are ever expected to use this.
> 
> "transient"?  Do you mean you intend to remove this API in the near future?

That's correct, the problem is that in order to use PAT cleanly we'd need to
change these drivers to not overlap ioremap'd areas otherwise things can get
quite complex, and changing the way we do the ioremap() calls on a driver might
require a bit of work. The atyfb driver changes I did are an example of the
types of changes that are expected.  In the most complex worst cases there are
MTRR "hole" tricks used, and as can be observed with the atyfb driver changes
there are a series of things to consider when this is done specially in light
of eventually making strong UC the default instead of UC-.

I might be able to work around not adding this API by reviewing the users I had
in this series again and seeing if something similar to what I will do on atyfb
can be done in the meantime by using ioremap_uc(). Its not clear to me yet.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-02 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-20 23:17 [PATCH v1 00/47] mtrr/x86/drivers: bury MTRR Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 01/47] x86: mtrr: annotate mtrr_type_lookup() is only implemented on generic_mtrr_ops Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 02/47] x86: mtrr: generalize run time disabling of MTRR Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-25 19:59   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-26  4:38     ` Juergen Gross
2015-03-26 23:35     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-02 20:13       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-04-02 20:20         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-02 20:28           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-04-02 21:02             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-02 22:09               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-04-02 22:12                 ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 20:40   ` Toshi Kani
2015-03-27 23:56     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-02 21:49       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-02 23:52         ` Toshi Kani
2015-04-03  1:08           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 03/47] devres: add devm_ioremap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:49   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-25 19:50     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 04/47] pci: add pci_ioremap_wc_bar() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:50   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-25 20:06     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-25 20:03   ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-25 20:39     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 05/47] pci: add pci_iomap_wc() variants Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-23 17:20   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-03-26  3:00     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 19:18     ` Toshi Kani
2015-04-21 19:25     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-21 19:27       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-25 20:07   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-27 18:40     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 06/47] mtrr: add __arch_phys_wc_add() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:48   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-27 19:53     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 19:58       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-27 20:30         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 21:23           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-27 23:04             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 23:10               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-27 23:33                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-02 20:21   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-04-02 20:55     ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2015-04-02 22:35       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-04-02 22:54         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 07/47] video: fbdev: atyfb: move framebuffer length fudging to helper Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 08/47] video: fbdev: atyfb: clarify ioremap() base and length used Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 09/47] vidoe: fbdev: atyfb: remove and fix MTRR MMIO "hole" work around Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-27 20:12     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 21:21       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-27 23:31         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-21  9:15   ` Ville Syrjälä
2015-03-27  8:37     ` Ville Syrjälä
2015-03-27 19:38       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 19:38     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 19:43       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-27 19:57         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-27 21:56           ` Ville Syrjälä
2015-03-27 22:02             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-28  0:28               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-28 12:23                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2015-04-01 23:52                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-02  0:04                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-02 19:45                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-02 19:50                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-28  0:21             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 10/47] video: fbdev: atyfb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and ioremap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 11/47] IB/qib: add acounting for MTRR Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 12/47] IB/qib: use arch_phys_wc_add() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 13/47] IB/ipath: add counting for MTRR Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 14/47] IB/ipath: use __arch_phys_wc_add() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 15/47] [media] media: ivtv: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 16/47] fusion: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 17/47] video: fbdev: vesafb: only support MTRR_TYPE_WRCOMB Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 18/47] vidoe: fbdev: vesafb: add missing mtrr_del() for added MTRR Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 19/47] video: fbdev: vesafb: use arch_phys_wc_add() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 20/47] mtrr: avoid ifdef'ery with phys_wc_to_mtrr_index() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 21/47] ethernet: myri10ge: use arch_phys_wc_add() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-21  7:08   ` Hyong-Youb Kim
2015-03-27 20:36     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 22/47] staging: sm750fb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and ioremap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 23/47] staging: xgifb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-30 17:40   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 24/47] video: fbdev: arkfb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and pci_iomap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 25/47] video: fbdev: radeonfb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and ioremap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 26/47] video: fbdev: gbefb: add missing mtrr_del() calls Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 27/47] video: fbdev: gbefb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and devm_ioremap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 28/47] video: fbdev: intelfb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and ioremap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 29/47] video: fbdev: matrox: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 30/47] video: fbdev: neofb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 31/47] video: fbdev: s3fb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and pci_iomap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 32/47] video: fbdev: nvidia: use arch_phys_wc_add() and ioremap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 33/47] video: fbdev: savagefb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 34/47] video: fbdev: sisfb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 35/47] video: fbdev: aty: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 36/47] video: fbdev: i810: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 37/47] video: fbdev: i740fb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and pci_ioremap_wc_bar() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 38/47] video: fbdev: kyrofb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 39/47] video: fbdev: pm2fb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and ioremap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 40/47] video: fbdev: pm3fb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 41/47] video: fbdev: rivafb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 42/47] video: fbdev: tdfxfb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 43/47] video: fbdev: vt8623fb: use arch_phys_wc_add() and pci_iomap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 44/47] video: fbdev: atmel_lcdfb: use ioremap_wc() for framebuffer Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 45/47] video: fbdev: geode gxfb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 46/47] video: fbdev: gxt4500: use pci_ioremap_wc_bar() " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-20 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 47/47] mtrr: bury MTRR - unexport mtrr_add() and mtrr_del() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-03-21  1:08 ` [PATCH v1 00/47] mtrr/x86/drivers: bury MTRR Andy Lutomirski

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