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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>,
	"Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	"Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala@sci.fi>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@redhat.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	linux-fbdev <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"X86 ML" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jej B" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, "Luis Rodriguez" <Mcgrof@suse.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Toshi Kani" <toshi.kani@hp.com>, "Borislav Petkov" <bp@suse.de>,
	"Julia Lawall" <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] RIP MTRR - status update for upcoming v4.2
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:37:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150613063731.GB12612@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXWZU2NZRZy7b74z54Tt5aKmTOmgMmf5WYG1OZtEmjw7A@mail.gmail.com>


* Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:

> On Jun 12, 2015 12:59 AM, "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>> On 12.06.15 at 01:23, <toshi.kani@hp.com> wrote:
> > > There are two usages on MTRRs:
> > >  1) MTRR entries set by firmware
> > >  2) MTRR entries set by OS drivers
> > >
> > > We can obsolete 2), but we have no control over 1).  As UEFI firmwares
> > > also set this up, this usage will continue to stay.  So, we should not
> > > get rid of the MTRR code that looks up the MTRR entries, while we have
> > > no need to modify them.
> > >
> > > Such MTRR entries provide safe guard to /dev/mem, which allows privileged 
> > > user to access a range that may require UC mapping while the /dev/mem driver 
> > > blindly maps it with WB.  MTRRs converts WB to UC in such a case.
> >
> > But it wouldn't be impossible to simply read the MTRRs upon boot, store the 
> > information, disable MTRRs, and correctly use PAT to achieve the same effect 
> > (i.e. the "blindly maps" part of course would need fixing).
> 
> This may crash and burn badly when we call a UEFI function or an SMI happens.  I 
> think we should just leave the MTRRs alone.

Not to mention suspend/resume, reboot and other goodies where the firmware might 
pop up expecting intact MTRRs.

Btw., doesn't a lack of MTRRs imply UC? So is 'crash and burn' possible in most 
cases? Isn't it just 'executes slower than before'?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-13  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-11 20:36 RIP MTRR - status update for upcoming v4.2 Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-06-11 23:23 ` Toshi Kani
2015-06-12  0:52   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-06-12 16:42     ` Toshi Kani
2015-06-12  7:59   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-06-12 16:58     ` Toshi Kani
2015-08-06 19:53       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-06 19:55         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-06 22:58         ` Toshi Kani
2015-08-07 20:25           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-07 21:56             ` Toshi Kani
2015-08-07 22:23               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-07 23:08                 ` Toshi Kani
2015-08-07 23:19                   ` Toshi Kani
2015-08-07 23:26                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-07 23:48                     ` Toshi Kani
2015-06-12 23:15     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-12 23:29       ` James Bottomley
2015-06-13  6:37       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-06-15  6:20       ` Jan Beulich

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