From: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>,
"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
bp@suse.de, arnd@arndb.de, luto@amacapital.net,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tomi.valkeinen@ti.com,
mst@redhat.com, toshi.kani@hp.com, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/8] pci: add pci_iomap_wc() and pci_ioremap_wc_bar()
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:43:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150722134348.GA10966@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150722083844.GA14626@gmail.com>
Hi Ingo,
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:38:45AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Let me know if these are OK or if there are any questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > [0] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20150625204703.GC4898@pd.tnic
> > > > > [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20150707095012.GQ7021@wotan.suse.de
> > > >
> > > > Ingo,
> > > >
> > > > Just a friendly reminder. Let me know if there are any issues or questions.
> > >
> > > It would be nice to get an Acked-by from Bjorn for the PCI API bits.
> >
> > I think the actual code of pci_ioremap_wc() and pci_ioremap_wc_bar() is fine
> > (although I might have named it pci_ioremap_bar_wc() for consistency).
> >
> > I declined to merge or ack them myself because they're obvious extensions of
> > pci_ioremap() and pci_ioremap_bar(), and I would prefer that they be exported
> > the same way, i.e., with EXPORT_SYMBOL(), not EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL().
>
> Huh? AFAICS pci_ioremap_bar() has been a _GPL export for a long time:
> ...
> (ioremap_wc() is EXPORT_SYMBOL() mostly by accident, it's the odd one out.)
You're right, I was mistaken about pci_ioremap_bar(). But I'm not
convinced yet that ioremap_wc() is the odd one out. All the interfaces I
found, with the exception of ioremap_uc() on x86 and pci_ioremap_bar(), are
EXPORT_SYMBOL(), even the _wc and _wt flavors.
> Also, FWIIW: I personally got essentially zero feedback and help from proprietary
> binary kernel module vendors in the past couple of years as x86 maintainer,
> despite a fair chunk of kernel crashes reported on distro kernels occuring in
> them...
>
> Based on that very negative experience, when we introduce something as complex and
> as critical as new caching APIs, the last thing I want is to have obscure bugs in
> binary modules I cannot fix in any reasonable fashion. So even if the parent APIs
> of new APIs weren't already _GPL exports (as in this case), I'd export them as
> _GPL in this case.
>
> > I think using EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL to express individual political aims rather than
> > as a hint about what might be derived work makes us look like zealots, and
> > that's not my style.
>
> As far as I'm concerned it's a pure technological choice: I don't want to export
> certain types of hard to fix and critical functionality to drivers that I cannot
> then fix.
That's a good argument that I hadn't heard before (or possibly it was there
and I missed it). It would be stronger still if we could change the parent
APIs similarly. If a proprietary driver can't use pci_ioremap_wc() because
it's exported _GPL, it's trivial to use ioremap_wc() directly.
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-22 13:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-09 1:54 [PATCH v9 0/8] pci: add pci_iomap_wc() and pci_ioremap_wc_bar() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 1:54 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] PCI: Add pci_ioremap_wc_bar() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 1:54 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] drivers/video/fbdev/i740fb: Use arch_phys_wc_add() and pci_ioremap_wc_bar() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 1:54 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] drivers/video/fbdev/kyrofb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 1:54 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] drivers/video/fbdev/gxt4500: Use pci_ioremap_wc_bar() to map framebuffer Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 1:54 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] PCI: Add pci_iomap_wc() variants Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 1:54 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] drivers/video/fbdev/arkfb.c: Use arch_phys_wc_add() and pci_iomap_wc() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 1:54 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] drivers/video/fbdev/s3fb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-09 1:54 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] drivers/video/fbdev/vt8623fb: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-17 20:29 ` [PATCH v9 0/8] pci: add pci_iomap_wc() and pci_ioremap_wc_bar() Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-21 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-21 13:21 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-07-22 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-22 13:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2015-08-06 21:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
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