From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] ARM: versatile: move CLCD configuration to device tree
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:01:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223120101.GJ19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9U3V04o2_93bS5G7+k=UT7kTWt4=v7t1Ju0X9W=5oo9A@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:56:34AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 23 February 2016 at 09:58, Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com> wrote:
> > I'm not quite sure how it works if, as in versatile display case, there
> > are multiple DT overlays of which one has to be enabled. I hope there's
> > support to choose which one to use via kernel cmdline or similar.
> >
> > I would personally like it much more if the bootloader would either
> > compose a final dtb from DT fragments and pass it to the kernel, or
> > alternatively the bootloader would pass the base dtb image and a bunch
> > of DT overlays to the kernel, and the kernel would deal with the DT
> > overlays.
>
> Speaking as somebody who's written the "bootloader" code that's
> used for what I guess are the majority of versatile kernel boots,
> i.e. the one in QEMU, I think that requiring the bootloader to do this
> would be a significant worsening from the current state.
>
> Right now the bootloader doesn't need to do much at all with device
> trees, except pass the kernel the DT that the user gave us, which
> is just the kernel's own data structures in a separate file for
> convenience. You need to do some very minor tweaks to the /chosen
> node, but these can be handled the same way for any board and aren't
> hardware specific. There's no need to worry about dt fragments
> either for the bootloader or for the user. Imposing a new requirement
> for the bootloader to have to probe hardware which it otherwise
> has no need to even care about, and then edit and update the DT
> in a board-specific manner, or have board-specific DT fragments,
> seems like a totally unnecessary imposition on both bootloader
> authors and end-users, and of course it would break booting newer
> kernels on the great mass of already existing boot loaders and
> QEMU installs.
>
> The kernel is in a position to probe the display hardware and determine
> what is there, and do the right thing, and that's exactly what it
> does today. The kernel should continue to do this.
> The advantage of DT is that it allows moving information about
> non-probeable hardware that was previously hardwired in the kernel
> C sources into a separate data structure, but the versatile displays
> are not non-probeable. I can see no benefit at all from hardwiring into
> the dt something which the kernel has previously been successfully
> dynamically getting right without any bootloader intervention -- it just
> makes the kernel less flexible and less user-friendly.
+1.
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-04 14:04 [PATCH 00/11] CLCD Nomadik+Versatile support Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 01/11] video: ARM CLCD: backlight support for OF Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 02/11] video: ARM CLCD: support DT signal inversion flags Linus Walleij
2016-02-17 18:10 ` [02/11] " Ray Jui
2016-02-19 8:46 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-20 1:23 ` Ray Jui
2016-02-20 11:46 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 03/11] video: ARM CLCD: support pads connected in reverse order Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 04/11] video: ARM CLCD: support Nomadik variant Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 05/11] video: ARM CLCD: add special board and panel hooks for Nomadik Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 06/11] Documentation/DT: add blurb for IB2 syscon to Versatile Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 07/11] Documentation/DT: add Versatile display bindings Linus Walleij
2016-02-17 9:11 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-18 20:48 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 08/11] video: ARM CLCD: add special panel hook for Versatiles Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 09/11] ARM: PB11MPCore: define a standard VGA panel Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 10/11] ARM: PB1176: " Linus Walleij
2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 11/11] ARM: versatile: move CLCD configuration to device tree Linus Walleij
2016-02-17 9:09 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-17 9:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-17 16:17 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-17 21:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-18 11:52 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-18 13:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-18 13:37 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-18 20:31 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-21 22:39 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-22 15:41 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-22 15:54 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-23 9:08 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-23 9:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-23 10:10 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-23 11:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-23 13:00 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-23 13:16 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-23 13:38 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-24 10:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-24 11:35 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-25 14:04 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-25 16:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-25 16:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-25 16:45 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-25 16:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-25 19:30 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-26 10:47 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-03-05 16:57 ` Linus Walleij
2016-03-07 7:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-25 19:32 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-23 9:58 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-23 10:32 ` Adam Ford
2016-02-23 10:59 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2016-02-23 11:56 ` Peter Maydell
2016-02-23 12:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2016-02-23 13:45 ` Tom Rini
2016-02-23 12:45 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-23 13:49 ` Peter Maydell
2016-02-24 12:06 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-24 10:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-24 11:21 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-24 11:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-24 11:47 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-24 12:13 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2016-02-25 13:43 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-25 13:56 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-25 14:35 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2016-02-25 15:36 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-25 15:40 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2016-02-23 13:08 ` Linus Walleij
2016-02-15 23:34 ` [PATCH 00/11] CLCD Nomadik+Versatile support Linus Walleij
2016-02-16 13:29 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-02-16 22:30 ` Linus Walleij
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