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From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
To: "Manuel Schölling" <manuel.schoelling@gmx.de>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	jslaby@suse.com, lkml14@scotdoyle.com, rdunlap@infradead.org,
	shorne@gmail.com, andrey_utkin@fastmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, paul.burton@imgtec.com,
	daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, tj@kernel.org, hdegoede@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 3/4] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:20:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170119172052.272qttos3rlmbxvl@angband.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1484842335.1250.7.camel@gmx.de>

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 05:12:15PM +0100, Manuel Schölling wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 14:23 +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 09:07:57PM +0100, Manuel Schölling wrote:
> > > Add a scrollback buffers for each VGA console.  The benefit is that
> > > the scrollback history is not flushed when switching between consoles
> > > but is persistent.  The buffers are allocated on demand when a new
> > > console is opened.
> > > 
> > > This breaks tools like clear_console that rely on flushing the
> > > scrollback history by switching back and forth between consoles
> > > which is why this feature is disabled by default.
> > > Use the escape sequence \e[3J instead for flushing the buffer.
> > 
> > This issue is the one that makes me the most worried.  Why doesn't
> > clear_console() work anymore?  Why doesn't it use \e[3J ?
> 
> Well, clear_console() just switches from one console to another and
> back again. It just assumes that the scrollback buffer is flushed when
> switching.
> My plan is to make a patch for clear_console() as soon as these patches
> are in the kernel - it's chicken-and-egg problem.

No need to wait, \e[3J is supported since Linux 2.6.39; the problem I
spotted was that a previous version of your patch would break that.

It is also safe to output that sequence to a terminal unconditionally: I've
tested a number of terminals, they all either support it (most X terminals,
our console) or silently ignore it.

We can't, though, rely on terminfo to do so: it knows about this capability
(which it calls "E3") for TERM=linux only since very recently.  The TERM
variable is also unreliable: it fails to carry over a serial link while
blindly printing \e[3J works.

As for patching clear_console, https://bugs.debian.org/845177 has a minimal
fix; although for all setups supported by Debian that program could be be
better replaced with just "printf '\e[3J\e[2J'" which would make it work on
strictly more terminals than current code does.  Same for distributions
which copied clear_console (it originates from Ubuntu, maintained in Debian
since then).


Meow!
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-19 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20161118005309.GC26324@dell-m4800.home>
2016-11-20 21:58 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA console Manuel Schölling
2016-11-20 21:58   ` [PATCH v5 1/2] console: Move scrollback data into its own struct Manuel Schölling
2016-11-20 21:58   ` [PATCH v5 2/2] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2016-11-20 22:23     ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-21 20:17     ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-22 16:56       ` Manuel Schölling
2016-11-23 17:33         ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-27 16:51           ` [PATCH v7 0/3] " Manuel Schölling
2016-11-27 16:51             ` [PATCH v7 1/3] console: Move scrollback data into its own struct Manuel Schölling
2016-11-27 16:51             ` [PATCH v7 2/3] console: Add callback to flush scrollback buffer to consw struct Manuel Schölling
2016-11-27 16:51             ` [PATCH v7 3/3] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2016-11-27 21:37             ` [PATCH v7 0/3] " Andrey Utkin
2016-11-27 23:15               ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-27 23:30                 ` Jakub Wilk
2016-11-28  0:02                 ` Andrey Utkin
2016-11-28 21:28               ` Manuel Schölling
2016-11-29 10:01                 ` Andrey Utkin
2016-11-29 10:44                   ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 16:35                   ` Manuel Schölling
2016-12-01 21:03                   ` Manuel Schölling
2016-12-01 21:31                     ` Andrey Utkin
2016-11-27 23:53             ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-28 21:23               ` Manuel Schölling
2016-12-04 10:53             ` Manuel Schölling
2016-12-04 10:53               ` [PATCH v7 1/3] console: Move scrollback data into its own struct Manuel Schölling
2016-12-04 10:53               ` [PATCH v7 2/3] console: Add callback to flush scrollback buffer to consw struct Manuel Schölling
2016-12-04 10:53               ` [PATCH v7 3/3] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2016-12-06 10:02               ` [PATCH v7 0/3] " Greg KH
2016-12-06 16:32                 ` Manuel Schölling
2016-12-21 16:37               ` [PATCH RESEND " Manuel Schölling
2016-12-21 16:37                 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 1/3] console: Move scrollback data into its own struct Manuel Schölling
2016-12-21 16:37                 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 2/3] console: Add callback to flush scrollback buffer to consw struct Manuel Schölling
2016-12-21 16:37                 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 3/3] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2017-01-04 13:54                 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 0/3] " Andrey Utkin
2017-01-05 11:33                   ` [PATCH v8 " Manuel Schölling
2017-01-05 11:33                     ` [PATCH v8 1/3] console: Move scrollback data into its own struct Manuel Schölling
2017-01-05 11:33                     ` [PATCH v8 2/3] console: Add callback to flush scrollback buffer to consw struct Manuel Schölling
2017-01-05 11:33                     ` [PATCH v8 3/3] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
     [not found]                       ` <CGME20170110162224epcas1p2095912fa6b73a1457fa86396149e78e9@epcas1p2.samsung.com>
2017-01-10 16:22                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
     [not found]                           ` <CGME20170110164435epcas1p314efb9c6ea3ffb971fce06f3bfaec736@epcas1p3.samsung.com>
2017-01-10 16:44                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-01-10 17:31                               ` Manuel Schölling
2017-01-10 21:28                               ` [PATCH v9 0/4] " Manuel Schölling
2017-01-10 21:28                                 ` [PATCH v9 1/4] console: Move scrollback data into its own struct Manuel Schölling
2017-01-10 21:28                                 ` [PATCH v9 2/4] console: Add callback to flush scrollback buffer to consw struct Manuel Schölling
2017-01-10 21:28                                 ` [PATCH v9 3/4] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2017-01-10 21:28                                 ` [PATCH v9 4/4] console: Make persistent scrollback a boot parameter Manuel Schölling
2017-01-10 22:58                                   ` Adam Borowski
2017-01-11 21:41                                     ` Manuel Schölling
2017-01-13 20:00                                     ` Manuel Schölling
2017-01-14  7:26                                       ` Greg KH
2017-01-11 13:32                                   ` kbuild test robot
2017-01-13 20:07                                     ` [PATCH v10 0/4] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2017-01-13 20:07                                       ` [PATCH v10 1/4] console: Move scrollback data into its own struct Manuel Schölling
2017-01-13 20:07                                       ` [PATCH v10 2/4] console: Add callback to flush scrollback buffer to consw struct Manuel Schölling
2017-01-13 20:07                                       ` [PATCH v10 3/4] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2017-01-19 13:23                                         ` Greg KH
2017-01-19 16:12                                           ` Manuel Schölling
2017-01-19 16:33                                             ` Greg KH
2017-01-19 23:04                                               ` Adam Borowski
2017-01-20 13:16                                                 ` Adam Borowski
2017-01-20 13:31                                                   ` Greg KH
2017-01-20 14:27                                                     ` Adam Borowski
2017-01-19 17:20                                             ` Adam Borowski [this message]
2017-01-13 20:07                                       ` [PATCH v10 4/4] console: Make persistent scrollback a boot parameter Manuel Schölling
2017-01-25 10:55                                       ` [PATCH v10 0/4] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Greg KH
2017-02-02 20:07                                   ` [PATCH v9 4/4] console: Make persistent scrollback a boot parameter Paul Gortmaker
2017-02-03 16:04                                     ` Manuel Schölling
2017-02-03 16:45                                       ` Adam Borowski
2017-01-02 14:27               ` [PATCH RESEND v7 0/3] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2017-01-02 14:27                 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 1/3] console: Move scrollback data into its own struct Manuel Schölling
2017-01-02 14:27                 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 2/3] console: Add callback to flush scrollback buffer to consw struct Manuel Schölling
2017-01-02 14:27                 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 3/3] console: Add persistent scrollback buffers for all VGA consoles Manuel Schölling
2016-11-23 17:33       ` [PATCH v5 2/2] " Manuel Schölling

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