From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, airlied@linux.ie,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com, robert.jarzmik@free.fr,
marex@denx.de, thellstrom@vmware.com, dsd@laptop.org,
jfrederich@gmail.com, masahiroy@kernel.org,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
geert@linux-m68k.org, linux-graphics-maintainer@vmware.com,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
haojian.zhuang@gmail.com, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
kieran.bingham+renesas@ideasonboard.com, daniel@zonque.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] drm, fbdev: rework dependencies
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:08:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200417190854.GI26002@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200417171453.GS3456981@phenom.ffwll.local>
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 07:14:53PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 05:55:45PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > I tried to fix up some dependencies after the sii8620 "imply EXTCON"
> > statementn broke, trying a few things but in the backing out a
> > change that would completely reverse the LEDS_CLASS selects into
> > a 'depends on'.
> >
> > However, what I got now are multiple changes that remove gratious
> > "selects" that lead to circular dependencies for sii8620 and others:
> >
> > - Anything doing "select FB" is now gone, or becomes "depends on FB",
> >
> > - DDC support depends on I2C instead of selecting it
> >
> > - backlight class device support is never selected by framebuffer
> > drivers but has proper dependencies
> >
> > I have done thousands of randconfig build tests on this, but no
> > runtime tests.
> >
> > Some of the 'depends on FOO || !FOO' statements could be simplified
> > into a new 'uses FOO' syntax based on a patch from Saeed Mahameed,
> > but I would for the moment treat that as a cleanup that can be done
> > later.
> >
> > If we can agree on these changes, maybe someone can merge them
> > through the drm-misc tree.
> >
> > Please review
>
> Biggest concern I have is that usability of make menuconfig is horrible,
> and it's very hard to find options that are hidden by depends on. You can
> use the search interface, if you happen to know the option.
>
> Once you've surmounted that bar, the next one is trying to find what
> exactly you need to enable. Which again means endless of recursive
> screaming at Kconfig files, since make menuconfig doesn't help you at all.
+1 on this. But this is a general kconfig problem, and not unique to
DRM, I've done this screaming for many different things now.. eg to
turn on every single RDMA driver.
I hackily delt with it by creating this rather insane script based on
the python kconfiglib to try and sort things out mostly automatically:
https://github.com/jgunthorpe/Kernel-Maintainer-Tools/blob/master/gj_tools/cmd_kconfig.py
It would be great if menuconfig had a key to say 'hey, really, turn
this on and everything it depends on, recursively'
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-17 19:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-17 15:55 [PATCH 0/8] drm, fbdev: rework dependencies Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 15:55 ` [PATCH 1/8] fbdev: w100fb: clean up mach-pxa compile-time dependency Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-18 10:10 ` Robert Jarzmik
2020-04-18 10:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 15:55 ` [PATCH 2/8] fbdev/ARM: pxa: avoid selecting CONFIG_FB Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-18 10:18 ` Robert Jarzmik
2020-04-17 15:55 ` [PATCH 3/8] fbdev: rework FB_DDC dependencies Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 15:55 ` [PATCH 4/8] drm/rcar: stop using 'imply' for dependencies Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 15:55 ` [PATCH 5/8] drm/vmwgfx: make framebuffer support optional Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-20 12:07 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-04-17 15:55 ` [PATCH 6/8] drm: decouple from CONFIG_FB Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 16:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-04-17 20:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 20:29 ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-04-17 15:55 ` [PATCH 7/8] fbdev: rework backlight dependencies Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 17:04 ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-04-17 19:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-20 8:02 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-17 15:55 ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/bridge/sii8620: fix extcon dependency Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 16:52 ` Andrzej Hajda
2020-04-17 17:14 ` [PATCH 0/8] drm, fbdev: rework dependencies Daniel Vetter
2020-04-17 19:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-04-20 8:14 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-20 14:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-21 12:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-21 12:58 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-21 13:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-04-21 13:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-21 13:25 ` Jani Nikula
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