From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: "Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] drm: Add I2C connector type
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 17:04:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220202170455.3eece5a3@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c6100ec3-b511-17cf-c542-e124c14fb334@tronnes.org>
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 10:45:42 +0100
Noralf Trønnes <noralf@tronnes.org> wrote:
> Den 02.02.2022 10.14, skrev Thomas Zimmermann:
> > Hi Noralf,
> >
> > since you're here, I'll just hijack the discussion to ask something only
> > semi-related.
> >
> > IIRC the gud driver doesn't update the display immediately during atomic
> > commits. Instead, it instructs a helper thread to do the update. What's
> > the rational behind this design? Is that something we should adopt for
> > other drivers that operate over slow buses (USB, I2C, etc)? Would this
> > be relevant for the ssd1307 driver?
> >
>
> Async flushing is only necessary on multi display setups where there's
> only one rendering loop for all the displays. I saw what tiny/gm12u320.c
> did and Hans gave me the rationale. The SPI drivers run flushing inline.
> Info on the gud wiki:
> https://github.com/notro/gud/wiki/Linux-Host-Driver#asynchronous-flushing
Hi,
please also consider that userspace may throttle to the KMS pageflip
events. If the pageflip event is immediate from submitting a flip, that
could mean userspace will be repainting in a busy-loop, like 1 kHz.
However, I remember something about virtual KMS drivers doing exactly
this, and there being something that tells userspace to throttle itself
instead of depending on pageflip completions. I just forget how that is
supposed to work, and I'm fairly sure that e.g. Weston does not behave
well there.
Unfortunately, the pageflip event is also what synchronises FB usage.
Once flipping in a new FB completed, the old FB is free for re-use.
But, if the kernel is still copying out from the old FB, userspace may
partially overwrite the contents, temporarily leading to an incomplete
or too new image on screen. Do you have anything to prevent that?
Thanks,
pq
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-31 20:12 [PATCH 0/4] drm/tiny: Add driver for Solomon SSD1307 OLED displays Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] drm: Add I2C connector type Javier Martinez Canillas
[not found] ` <YfhMESTylI1NTKDg@ravnborg.org>
2022-01-31 23:26 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 12:58 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 13:06 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 13:20 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 13:55 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 13:38 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 14:20 ` Noralf Trønnes
[not found] ` <YfmeztkVXwZzAwYe@ravnborg.org>
2022-02-01 22:29 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-02 8:46 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 9:14 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-02 9:45 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-02 15:04 ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2022-02-02 16:00 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-01-31 20:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] drm/format-helper: Add drm_fb_gray8_to_mono_reversed() Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 9:59 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 11:13 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-01 11:48 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-14 13:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-14 14:07 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:36 ` [PATCH 0/4] drm/tiny: Add driver for Solomon SSD1307 OLED displays Simon Ser
2022-01-31 20:39 ` Simon Ser
2022-01-31 23:21 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 8:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 8:34 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 8:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 10:08 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 10:11 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 10:17 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 8:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-01 9:49 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 10:42 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-01 11:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-02 9:19 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-02 10:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <YfhM97cVH3+lJKg0@ravnborg.org>
2022-01-31 23:37 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 9:37 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-01 11:31 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 11:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 13:09 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 14:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 15:03 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 20:40 ` Sam Ravnborg
2022-02-02 8:38 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 11:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 11:39 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 11:50 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 11:54 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 12:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-01 8:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 9:27 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 10:36 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
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