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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Thierry Reding
	<thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart
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	Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
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	Linux Fbdev development list
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Subject: Re: [RFR 2/2] drm/panel: Add simple panel support
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:20:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3278905.VOXO7bPE7e@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52645428.9080607-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>

Hi Stephen,

On Sunday 20 October 2013 23:07:36 Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/17/2013 12:07 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> ...
> 
> >> As I said, anything that really needs a CDF binding to work
> >> likely isn't "simple" anymore, therefore a separate driver can
> >> easily be justified.
> > 
> > The system as a whole would be more complex, but the panel could be
> > the same. We can't have two drivers for the same piece of hardware
> > in the DT world, as there will be a single compatible string and no
> > way to choose between the drivers (unlike the board code world that
> > could set device names to "foo- encoder-v4l2" or "foo-encoder-drm"
> > and live happily with that ever after).
> 
> That's not true. We can certainly define two different compatible
> values for a piece of HW if we have to. We can easily control whether
> they are handled by the same or different drivers in the OS.

From an implementation point of view, sure. But from a conceptual point of 
view, that would make the DT bindings pretty Linux-specific, with a 
description of what the operating system should do instead of a description of 
what the hardware looks like. My understanding is that we've tried pretty hard 
in the past not to open that Pandora's box.

The case I'm mostly concerned about would be two different compatibility 
strings to select whether the device should be handled by a KMS or V4L driver. 
I don't think that's a good idea.

> Now, we should try to avoid this, because then that means that the
> original binding wasn't fully describing the HW. However, at least in
> the case of these simple LCD panels, it's hard to see that there is
> anything more than what's already in Thierry's binding. Remember, the
> binding is a description of the HW, not any Linux-internal details of
> how e.g. a CDF or DRM subsystem is supposed to use the HW; that had
> better be embodied into the driver or subsystem code, which aren't
> ABIs, and hence can be easily modified/enhanced.
-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-24 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-16 18:25 [RFR 0/2] DRM display panel support Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1381947912-11741-1-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-16 18:25   ` [RFR 1/2] drm: Add " Thierry Reding
2013-10-16 18:25   ` [RFR 2/2] drm/panel: Add simple " Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381947912-11741-3-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17  0:47       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17  8:28         ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]           ` <CAPM=9tzU36cwcM0pH0J_Vgc6UOj5MHdVNDvn3wpGNuihbMqdQQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17  8:49             ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]               ` <525FA4B0.8060504-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17  9:16                 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                   ` <20131017091614.GC2502-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17  9:52                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                       ` <525FB368.6020003-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 10:48                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                           ` <20131017104856.GA10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 11:07                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-20 22:07                               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                 ` <52645428.9080607-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 11:20                                   ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2013-10-24 22:06                                     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                       ` <526999DA.7080409-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  8:13                                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                           ` <20131025081314.GC19622-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 13:47                                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 14:10                                               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                 ` <20131025141029.GD1551-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 14:22                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 11:33                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 12:29                                           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                             ` <20131025122925.GA24720-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 13:49                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 15:29                                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-17 11:21                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-20 22:01                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-17  8:53         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]           ` <20131017085342.GB2502-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 10:22             ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]               ` <525FBA5D.9000001-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 11:05                 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                   ` <20131017110517.GC10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 11:15                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 12:06                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20131017120646.GE10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:23                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 12:55                             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-17 11:50                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                       ` <525FCF07.6070006-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:12                         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-17 11:02             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 11:35               ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                 ` <525FCB95.6070401-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 11:51                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 11:59                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                       ` <525FD12D.3000200-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:17                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 12:32                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                             ` <525FD8DD.3090509-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-20 19:29                               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-24 10:40                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-24 10:52                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-25 10:54                                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-17 11:41               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                 ` <20131017114139.GD10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:14                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 12:46                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                       ` <20131017124619.GG10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 11:05                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-24 11:48                           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                             ` <20131024114823.GC11296-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 11:27                               ` Laurent Pinchart

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