From: Thomas Winischhofer <thomas@winischhofer.net>
To: Antonino Daplas <adaplas@pol.net>
Cc: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>,
Linux Fbdev development list
<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Some questions
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:49:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E670B82.30900@winischhofer.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1046913411.1206.185.camel@localhost.localdomain
Antonino Daplas wrote:
> fbcon_resize() is not that broken, it's only trying to do what it's
> supposed to do. It is indeed limited because it is trying to outguess
> the low-level drivers on the best resolution for a window size.
>
> However, the brokenness is really on the driver side. They are unable
> to change the video mode unless they are supplied with the correct
> timing parameters where in fact they actually have the best knowledge on
> how to calculate them.
Yes, BUT ONLY IF the driver has enough parameters to calculate it. This
requires at least x and y dimension AND A CLOCK (or a vertical refresh
rate, which I would prefer).
The driver is supposed to handle the "var"s it's fed. If that var is
like the ones that result from the current fbcon_resize, namely with a
new x and y res, but no valid clock, how on earth should the driver do
this then? It receives a var which looks correct, and in fact, *could*
be correct sometimes:
Suppose we have another application, say DirectFB, feeding the low level
drivers with complete and correct "var"s.
In both cases we have valid x any y resultions, and a non-zero clock field.
Should we then let the driver read the x and y resolution and forget
about the rest of that var? I hardly think that's what the public var is
for. It could be reduced to a struct { USHORT xres, USHORT yres } then.
> So the question: Do we let fbcon spoonfeed the timings to fbdev, or do
> we let the drivers calculate it for themselves? I go for the latter, as
> fbcon really should not have any business with hardware.
What about the following solution: What if fbcon_resize sets the clock
in the var to 0? We could use this to force low level drivers to decide
on the clock for themselves. Otherwise, ie if the clock field is
non-zero, they are supposed to take it as the desired clock.
Thomas
--
Thomas Winischhofer
Vienna/Austria
mailto:thomas@winischhofer.net http://www.winischhofer.net/
-------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The debugger
for complex code. Debugging C/C++ programs can leave you feeling lost and
disoriented. TotalView can help you find your way. Available on major UNIX
and Linux platforms. Try it free. www.etnus.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-06 8:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-05 12:18 Some questions Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 13:26 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 14:06 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 15:25 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 15:37 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 15:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 15:59 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 16:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 16:34 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 16:06 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 16:17 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 16:44 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 17:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 19:25 ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 19:27 ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 15:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 15:54 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 19:31 ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 15:48 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 19:43 ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 22:21 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-06 0:18 ` James Simmons
2003-03-06 9:03 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-06 1:18 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 1:18 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 8:49 ` Thomas Winischhofer [this message]
2003-03-06 9:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-06 9:58 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 10:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-06 10:30 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 9:26 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 9:43 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-06 10:05 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 10:31 ` Sven Luther
2003-03-06 10:48 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 10:51 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 11:40 ` Sven Luther
2003-03-06 13:25 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-06 15:25 ` James Simmons
2003-03-06 15:27 ` James Simmons
2003-03-07 12:08 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-07 12:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-07 18:19 ` James Simmons
2003-03-07 14:01 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 15:19 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-07 16:19 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 17:00 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-07 17:42 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 18:31 ` James Simmons
2003-03-07 17:49 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-11 16:23 ` James Simmons
2003-03-07 20:12 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 20:51 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-08 0:58 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-08 5:40 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-08 14:11 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-08 14:20 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-08 22:03 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-09 3:47 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-09 6:18 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-07 18:30 ` James Simmons
2003-03-11 16:07 ` James Simmons
2003-03-11 21:03 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 19:16 ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 19:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 19:34 ` James Simmons
2003-03-05 22:13 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 23:53 ` James Simmons
2003-03-06 8:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-06 9:00 ` Sven Luther
2003-03-06 9:03 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-11 16:29 ` James Simmons
2003-03-11 20:07 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-11 20:56 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-11 21:45 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-11 22:23 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-11 22:51 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-12 0:07 ` Michel Dänzer
2003-03-12 1:02 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-12 1:29 ` Michel Dänzer
2003-03-12 8:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-12 15:56 ` Michel Dänzer
2003-03-11 22:27 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-11 22:51 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-11 23:12 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 14:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-05 14:18 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 14:16 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 15:25 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 14:22 ` Thomas Winischhofer
2003-03-05 19:02 ` James Simmons
2003-03-06 1:18 ` Antonino Daplas
2003-03-05 18:57 ` James Simmons
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=3E670B82.30900@winischhofer.net \
--to=thomas@winischhofer.net \
--cc=adaplas@pol.net \
--cc=jsimmons@infradead.org \
--cc=linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).