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From: Thomas Winischhofer <thomas@winischhofer.net>
To: David Eger <eger@theboonies.us>
Cc: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ PATCH-LINK ] fb accel capabilities - take 2
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 13:44:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40B9C932.8010805@winischhofer.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1085819816.40b84ba84f22d@mail.theboonies.us>

David Eger wrote:
> I'll add some comments to the patch :)
> 
> The intent for the FBINFO_HWACCEL_fnName flags is to say that the hardware will
> be smart about it (i.e., it ought to be fast).  New fb drivers have been
> filling in copyarea() with cfb_copyarea() (that is, the software version) or
> more opaquely filling in copyarea() with their own mydriver_copyarea(), and
> then conditionally calling cfb_copyarea() depending on the noaccel flag.

Evidently.

> With the patch, there are a bunch of these "is X really hardware accelerated?"
> flags in fbinfo->flags, as well as FBINFO_HWACCEL_DISABLED which should tell
> the driver to not use its acceleration engine --- and use unaccelerated
> versions of copyarea(), fillrect(), imageblit(); and FBINFO_MODULE (is the
> driver loaded as a module?)

So far so good. Can't see a reason for partly disabling acceleration, 
but ok.

>>Erm, I wasn't aware of this. Interesting... Personally, since sisfb does
>>y-panning I didn't see any speed regressions compared with 2.4 yet.
> 
> 
> So with my patch, you'd see a regression in speed until you flag that your
> driver can do hardware panning.  I thought it would be good for our small
> brains to put all the flags for this in one place instead of testing the
> (x/y)panstep variables for zero...

There is another issue with panning. How does the new fbcon code decide 
how big the virtual screen shall be (if it cares at all)? Will there be 
a change in behavior?

Right now, this is more or less a hack: sisfb, unless explicitly told 
not to do so (nomax or noypan), will maximize the virtual y resolution 
on all var's it receives. DirectFB disables this "auto-maximizing" 
feature with a respective ioctl before changing the mode etc. Works 
fine. Dunno if other drivers do the same. Advantage is that users get 
the fastest possible console by default (without using fbset or the like 
to set the virtual screen size.)

Do I have to expect this mechanism to fail? IOW: (No, not io-write, in 
other words ;)) Will the panning stuff change in the fbcon layer 
breaking this?


>>Are these to set/cleared exclusively by the driver or must the driver
>>expect them to change? (I mean for example that fbset in 2.4 could be
>>used to disable acceleration, which is important to DirectFB)
> 
> *really*?  I was wondering about that.  I'll have to go see how that works...


Assumingly simple. Set/clears FB_ACCELF_TEXT. DirectFB uses the same 
technique. Your new flags will break both.


>>Is there any driver already finished so that I can look it up somewhere?
> 
> There's a patch for radeonfb (my video card ;-) )


I already saw that. Will take a closer look.


>>Will an old driver (status as of now) work at all with the new flags not
>>being touched? Will it compile? (That *should* work IMHO)
> 
> 
> /me nods.  It should. I tried compiling all of the drivers, and most of them
> compiled.  The few drivers that didn't seemed to be pure 2.4 API code that no
> one has loved for a long time :-/  Ah well..

(Assume you mean 2.5 API...?)

If they should compile you will need the mentioned compat-#define's in 
the long run...

Thomas

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Thomas Winischhofer
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-30 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-28 11:58 [ PATCH-LINK ] fb accel capabilities - take 2 Thomas Winischhofer
2004-05-29  8:36 ` David Eger
2004-05-29 12:14   ` fbset noaccel David Eger
2004-05-31  1:08     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-05-30 11:44   ` Thomas Winischhofer [this message]
2004-05-31  1:08     ` [ PATCH-LINK ] fb accel capabilities - take 2 Antonino A. Daplas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-28  1:11 Thomas Winischhofer
2004-05-28  3:38 ` David Eger
2004-05-28  7:42   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-05-05 13:47 Screen Refresh Lucas Correia Villa Real
2004-05-15 13:58 ` [ PATCH-LINK ] fb accel capabilities - take 2 David Eger

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