From: Zachary Smith <plinius@comcast.net>
To: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT?
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:48:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <416EE60E.3000607@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <416E6ADC.3007.294DF20D@localhost>
The problem of x86-only BIOSes is one of the videocard manufacturers'
own making which, in the spirit of good engineering, they should fix
before requiring a downstream kludge.
It's strange that they seem to want to sell these cards for use in
non-x86 machines yet they won't pay to have people write BIOSes
for PPC or other CPUs, or even provide a pseudocode solution.
Zack
Kendall Bennett wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am writing this email to guage the interest in having code contributed
> to the main stream Linux kernel that would support the user of a generic,
> full featured VESA framebuffer driver that works on any CPU architecture
> along with a generic Video card BOOT or POST mechanism.
>
> We have been working on a project under contract to ATI that involves
> porting a version of our SNAPBoot BIOS emulator solution to the PowerPC
> Linux kernel. The SNAPBoot code supports initialising a graphics card
> using an x86 BIOS image on any platform (currently tesed on x86, x86-64
> and PowerPC). Initially SNAPBoot was developed to work across multiple
> operating systems and CPU architectures from user space, but the desire
> to use it to initialise the graphics card on embedded PowerPC kernels
> prompted us to port a version of it for use within the Linux kernel. The
> version we have ported for use in the kernel can be used to initialise
> the graphics card for use with any accelerated framebuffer console
> driver, such as the radeonfb driver which we are currently using it with.
>
> Note that the SNAPBoot code uses the x86emu BIOS emulator project as the
> core CPU emulation technology, and project we have been actively involved
> with for many years since the licensing on the project was changed to
> MIT/BSD style licensing and incorporated into the XFree86 project. We
> have built code on top of x86emu to provide generic support for
> initialising graphics cards on multiple platforms as well as supporting
> initialisation of modern NonVGA graphics cards (like the ATI Radeon
> family) without needing access to real VGA resources such as VGA I/O
> ports and physical memory at 0xA0000-0xBFFFF.
>
> More importantly we have used SNAPBoot to port our generic VESA SNAP
> display driver to work on multiple operating systems and platforms,
> including both x86-64 and PowerPC platforms. Using this driver you can
> use any graphics card in the machine and it will support all the features
> provided by the graphics cards VESA BIOS, including support for refresh
> rate control on cards that support VBE 3.0 services. We have been
> actively testing both the SNAPBoot capability and the BIOS emulator on
> many platforms and graphics cards, and the latest version work flawlessly
> on just about every graphics card we have tested.
>
> What this means is that it should be possible to build a new version of
> the VESA framebuffer console driver for the Linux kernel that will have
> these important features:
>
> 1. Be able to switch display modes on the fly, supporting all modes
> enumerated by the Video BIOS.
>
> 2. Be able to support refresh rate control on graphics cards that support
> the VBE 3.0 services.
>
> 3. Be able to support 8-bit and 32-bit display modes on any graphics card
> on big endian machines (16-bit is not possible unless software rendering
> code is written to enable endian swapping in software, which may be
> possible).
>
> So what we would like to find out is how much interest there might be in
> both an updated VESA framebuffer console driver as well as the code for
> the Video card BOOT process being contributed to the maintstream kernel.
> If there is interest, we would start out by first contributing the core
> emulator and Video BOOT code, and then work on building a better VESA
> framebuffer console driver.
>
> So what do you guys think?
>
> Regards,
>
> ---
> Kendall Bennett
> Chief Executive Officer
> SciTech Software, Inc.
> Phone: (530) 894 8400
> http://www.scitechsoft.com
>
> ~ SciTech SNAP - The future of device driver technology! ~
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-14 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-14 19:02 Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? Kendall Bennett
2004-10-14 19:59 ` Zachary Smith
2004-10-15 23:36 ` Ian Romanick
2004-10-14 20:48 ` Zachary Smith [this message]
2004-10-15 18:05 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 18:55 ` Zachary Smith
2004-10-15 19:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-15 22:22 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 0:27 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 18:36 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:51 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 23:20 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-15 23:51 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 23:58 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19 21:15 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-16 1:50 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16 2:03 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 20:34 ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 20:47 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 21:04 ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 21:16 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 22:34 ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 23:28 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2004-10-19 0:18 ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19 0:55 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 1:39 ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19 17:54 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:48 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:08 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:42 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 12:05 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-15 12:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-15 12:45 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-19 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 13:13 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-17 12:07 ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18 8:36 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 11:39 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Martin Waitz
2004-10-18 12:10 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 20:21 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Helge Hafting
2004-10-18 20:42 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-10-19 16:57 ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-15 18:29 ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2004-10-16 9:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-15 18:36 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 13:48 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 18:36 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:44 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 22:12 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-16 0:41 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-26 11:14 ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-27 1:58 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-27 11:11 ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-27 19:52 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:51 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16 17:44 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-19 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 17:31 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 18:44 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:10 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-21 20:47 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Richard Smith
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2004-10-15 20:19 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-15 22:22 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 23:02 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19 21:09 ` Pavel Machek
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2004-10-21 4:03 Yu, Luming
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